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So I still suck at these, but this was my most recent attempt. Comments are appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9YUvBty-o

Btw - the last rep I hit my chest on the way up and wiff it. :/

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04-10-2011 , 10:36 PM

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you should be bent over way more, your shoulders should be in front of your knees. this video should help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSm8XMlo198

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04-10-2011 , 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snipe

So I still suck at these, but this was my most recent attempt. Comments are appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9YUvBty-o

Btw - the last rep I hit my chest on the way up and wiff it. :/

just gonna quote my whole post yo.

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Originally Posted by milesdyson

when you do a hang clean you don't need to actively put your knees under the bar before you pull. your form is generally choppy which isn't conducive to developing form you can repeat. stand up with the bar, lower it slowly to mid thigh mostly by pushing your hips back with slightly bent knees. you should feel a lot of tension in your hamstrings unless you let your lumbar flex (bad). the instant the bar gets to mid thigh, stand up as fast as possible. try it with an empty bar and look at yourself in the mirror. your knees will rebend automatically.

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04-10-2011 , 10:56 PM

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Hmm - yeah - thanks for the vid. It's really strange as in SS - Rip writes that the scapular spine should be over the bar, however in the California Strength vid, Pendlay says to keep the chest up, bend 2-3 inches at the knees, and then jump w/ no hip angle.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding?

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And yes, I actually made this gif in hopes of figuring it out. :/

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04-10-2011 , 10:59 PM

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And yeah Miles, I'll try that when I inevitably try again tomorrow. (I meant to try today but forgot as I was watching the cal strength vids. Don't want you to think I disregarded your advice - just got a bit side tracked)

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04-10-2011 , 11:07 PM

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don't know what to say other than the lift as performed in that clip is done with little or no hip extension. watch any actual clean and look at the torso/knee position before the second pull happens. video here is of the same lifter in a meet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSNHQ-BBENU

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04-10-2011 , 11:27 PM

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So is the movement mostly hamstring? I mean, here it really does look like he's pulling it like an explosive dead at the top.

I guess it does here too kinda? Just more subtle?

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04-10-2011 , 11:42 PM

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every hip extensor is involved in the lift.

the difference between the two is subtle but hugely significant. here's the clean slowed down. his knees are behind the bar, and the instant he starts the second pull, they bend under the bar. notice the huge difference between his torso angle before and after his knees shift forward. this bend is not forced, it occurs naturally when you begin the pull with knees behind bar. you can try this with an empty bar or a broomstick at home. your knees will do it automatically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Zr6aUwb3E

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04-11-2011 , 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by milesdyson

This is helpful. Thank you.

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04-11-2011 , 11:03 PM

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So I found these vids helpful and thought I'd post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd1lx...B11E0303978B8F

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSc3B...978B8F&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyvP...978B8F&index=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBwd...978B8F&index=1

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04-12-2011 , 02:42 AM

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squat form check + bonus failed 315 bench
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foKIBKs_Bck

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04-12-2011 , 10:29 AM

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squat form check + bonus failed 315 bench
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foKIBKs_Bck

squats look good imo. Looks like you would have had 310 on the bench.

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04-12-2011 , 12:38 PM

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Does anyone else have trouble practicing cleans with a stick? The bar is a little strange too. My technique isn't perfect or even great so I'm going back to sq 1, just cleans from the hip til its perfect and then just from the knee. Suggestions? I always find myself using my arms way too much. When jon north does it in that gif (I've watched the vid series) he looks like he's using his arms too?

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04-12-2011 , 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ImprovinNewbie

Yeah, I find a stick worthless. The bar is better, but even then I like at least a bit of weight on it.

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04-12-2011 , 06:14 PM

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I'm right there with you guys (as I'm sure you can tell from my posts above). I've been practicing from the hang for several days now, and still can't quite get it right (tho I feel like I'm improving a bit). Even though I find him a bit annoying, I really liked the breakdown in the first vid I posted. It helped me visualize the intermediate positions. Just skip to 2:45 in.

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04-13-2011 , 03:39 AM

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Hey guys, I'm fairly new to SS and lifting in general...any comments or criticisms of my squat form would be appreciated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdMrIVmoyn0

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04-13-2011 , 08:50 AM

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Squats look fine to me. Only note is to bring your hips through a bit more at the end.

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04-13-2011 , 09:35 AM

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Agree with Improvin. Finish standing up at the top. Will be easier on your back in the long run too.

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04-13-2011 , 11:40 AM

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Sup bros! Im posting a squat form-check because I want to know if they are too bad, or if the upward movement is too slow, to move up in weight next workout. Also, my face gets red as a tomato, and I feel like a vein might burst. Would I be being greedy if I add 5lbs next time, or should I reset? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgbNpdNKYEg

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04-13-2011 , 11:41 AM

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Hi folks, I took my first video of me squatting this evening and was hoping some one could critique my form. I have been squatting (and other SS exercises) for a little while and slowly increasing the weight, but clearly there are things to improve on. Thanks in advance, hopefully will get videos of the other lifts in the future.

5 x 200 lbs set 1

5 x 200 lbs set 2

I did 5 sets but had only so much space on my old camera. Please forgive the crappy quality, editing and music! Cross-posted from thread (yep, didnt read rules, sorry)

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04-13-2011 , 12:00 PM

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Konrad- good squats and that looks heavy. I'm torn between sayong go for it or wait til its a little more explosive. Either is fine I guess.

Aidan- pull your hips through more at the end so you are standing upright. Also, I can see your head but from your torso movement I think you are looking down and letting your chest come forward. Fix your eyes slightly up and don't let your chest fall. Keep as upright as possible.

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04-13-2011 , 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by konrad

Move up imo. Tighten your lower back more, knees are going a bit too far forwards at the bottom. Consider looking more down, don't look at yourself in the mirror.

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04-13-2011 , 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidan

Fairly sure you don't shove knees out enough. Depth is lacking. Tighter lower back. Go down a bit faster and don't pause at the bottom, try to bounce of your hamstrings.

Improvin,
you're talking about form cues for HBBS. For the LBBS, you're supposed to look down, and the back should not be as vertical as possible.