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Old 05-18-2017, 11:33 AM   #4901
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

LOL at that trainer cheering you on for one more rep at what is obviously your 20 something rep max.
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Old 05-22-2017, 06:43 PM   #4902
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First set got completely deleted because of the song. not even muted. WTF. I think it looked better than 2

I tried to "leg press into the ground" but then on this heavy set my shoulders came forward and it was bad.






Is it bad that I had a pattern of:

2 x 380 @ 8.5
1 x 400 @ 10
1 x 380 @ 10
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:53 PM   #4903
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Your deadlifts are cringeworthy. You're gonna snap some **** up if you keep this up.

Generally imo you should work on tightness/bracing and not yanking the bar so hard, because it instantly causes you to lose position. You should probably take around 100lbs off the bar while you work on it.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:55 PM   #4904
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Did you read my reply to your last deadlifts / watch the video that I linked?

edit: Also, how do lighter pulls look? Make a video of 315x3 or something.
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Old 05-23-2017, 12:23 AM   #4905
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You never complete the proper set up, your back is soft all the way from grabbing the bar to standing up. When you get down and grab the bar, before you stand up, think about overextending your back as **** (this is an exaggeration cue to help get the proper neutral result) and pulling your chest as high as you can squeezing your body ultra tight while keeping your hands on the bar. Your arms/hands will feel like they already want to start pulling the bar. When you do this, you should be getting a little closer to what a proper set-up looks like.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:04 PM   #4906
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I think I kept my back too rounded because of this comment. I tried to tighten up without sticking my chest out too much

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Are you intentionally doing that chest out thing? It looks kind of weird to me, its also appears to be what is causing what looks to me like way excessive backward leaning. 355 pause at :16 and 370 pause at :12. That backwards lean looks wrong to me.

Also anybody elses YouTube embeds not working?
I did watch the vid Renton. I focused on not rolling the bar, keeping it over midfoot and leg pressing the weight up. I didn't think I could remember every applicable clue.

My leaks do get worse at RPE 10. I'm deloading this week and will post some vids of that.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:36 PM   #4907
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Noone can remember or correctly apply new cues when pulling a max single, that's why it's probably a good idea to drop down in weight significantly.
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Old Yesterday, 04:21 PM   #4908
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Lighter deadlifts







some GGO bench in the background
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Old Yesterday, 07:10 PM   #4909
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I also have a garbage deadlift, so I feel qualified to answer.

First of all, your hips are too low. At this weight you're still able to muscle it up, but it won't be like that when it's heavier and you'll end up whipping your back deeper into flexion like you did for 400. By the way, the lockout captured by the thumbnail of that video tells you all you need to know about what your set-up looks like.

Also you're still not setting your back at all. All the tension is in your legs. Just look at how far your knees are forward of the bar, which also relates to the fact that you are starting with the bar forward of midfoot.

Something I read that helped me is that instead of worrying about where your hips are, maybe think instead about how tight you are. When everything is as tense as it could possibly be, you're ready to pull.

I suggest experimenting with moving your feet in closer to the bar, and then pushing your knees (and your toes) outwards. I don't know why but it's helped me set my back much better.
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

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some GGO bench in the background
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You DO know that's Mike Mazanet, Dwight Anderson and John Haack though, right? heh
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Old Today, 01:02 AM   #4911
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Is looking up a commonly-recommended cue for conventional?
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Old Today, 01:36 AM   #4912
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Is looking up a commonly-recommended cue for conventional?
Not at all ime. Neck craning is usually considered as a big nono, which is easy to happen wheb looking up. "Tuck the chin" and keeping a neutral neck are used much more.
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Old Today, 01:44 AM   #4913
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Reason I ask is that it seems to conversely be recommended for sumo. I guess it's analogous to highbar vs lowbar, where the torso angle dictates the eyegaze.
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