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08-25-2013 , 09:45 AM
Squat Form Check

203.5lbs



This is my form at it's worst because this is an extra set with ~90% of workset weight after I finished the final workset of a heavy Sunday Squat Session.
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08-25-2013 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
@bluef0x,

For whatever reason, I can't get your vids to play. I think it's cuz they're in spoiler tags (tho idk why this would be an issue). Mind reposting?
Click 'Show'before playing the vid.
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08-25-2013 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
Squat Form Check

203.5lbs



This is my form at it's worst because this is an extra set with ~90% of workset weight after I finished the final workset of a heavy Sunday Squat Session.
Your core is looking solid. Depth could be a bit deeper, but I dont think you should worry much about that because of your back issues. Right now, you're cutting it off at the right depth for your back to handle. It'd be good for you to get your hips a little more mobile.
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08-25-2013 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
Thoughts on these squats:

@cha,

Thoughts on the above?
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08-25-2013 , 10:36 PM
Also, I'm freaky tall (6'7") so traditional deadlift is hard to do without back rounding. Here I'm doing sumo DL and still have some back rounding.

Any thoughts on how to fix this?

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08-26-2013 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cha59
Your core is looking solid. Depth could be a bit deeper, but I dont think you should worry much about that because of your back issues. Right now, you're cutting it off at the right depth for your back to handle. It'd be good for you to get your hips a little more mobile.
Thanks Cha! My entire focus during the lift is on my core and keeping chest up! The tightening of obliques and locking the core still takes a bit of effort but it's becoming second nature.
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08-26-2013 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
@cha,

Thoughts on the above?
You're going a little too deep. Your back is getting loose near the bottom because your core is getting a little loose because its deeper than you should go with your current hip mobility/core strength.

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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
Also, I'm freaky tall (6'7") so traditional deadlift is hard to do without back rounding. Here I'm doing sumo DL and still have some back rounding.

Any thoughts on how to fix this?

Your height is not the problem. I know a guy who's about your height and lifts at 198 in USPA. He can DL more than me - I've seen him pull 567 without rounding his back.

Your problem is your core & glutes are too weak for the weight that you're pulling. That's why your back is rounding. See Snitch's log the past several weeks for ideas on fixing it.

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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
Thanks Cha! My entire focus during the lift is on my core and keeping chest up! The tightening of obliques and locking the core still takes a bit of effort but it's becoming second nature.
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08-31-2013 , 11:47 AM



My last 3 PCs of a 5x3, 165#.
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09-01-2013 , 11:29 AM
Mario,
In addition to what Cha said, you may want to start over with your DL.

I don't know whether you should pull sumo or conventional. Here's an article that can help you decide http://articles.elitefts.com/trainin...one-structure/

Regardless of how you pull, from the video you are not setting up correctly, you are not starting your pull correctly, and when you do pull, your hips shoot high, the bar drifts away from you and then you actually lose your footing and take several mini steps.
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09-01-2013 , 11:34 AM
Could I please get some pointers on my squat? Would like to get the errors smoothed out before going heavier than 135.

Apologies for sorta crappy angle.

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09-01-2013 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
Could I please get some pointers on my squat? Would like to get the errors smoothed out before going heavier than 135.

Apologies for sorta crappy angle.

I think you're going to struggle moving up - I abandoned a pure Rip-like squat a while ago and have had a lot better form. I'd stay more upright, it will help keep the weight back and balance. You come forward some and I think that looking down is a big reason. I switched to looking up and it fixed my form a ton. I think the way you're squatting, you'll start failing when the weight gets heavier, because you're so far forward with it.
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09-01-2013 , 02:28 PM
rip is my only frame of reference x_x interested to hear more opinions on if i should switch it up. ty brky.

i weigh ~150 so it's only a matter of time before i plateau and need to eat more.
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09-01-2013 , 02:48 PM
Clayton,
You have 0 hyp drayhve. Also, as you reach depth your heels come off the ground cause your weight to shift forward, this makes your knees drive forward, then... you guessed it the bar comes forward.

Put some change plates under your heels to help fix the lack of ankle mobility, I'd probably go toe out a bit more- its hard to see.

You don't sit the hips back far enough and you don't work to drive your knees out. Chest position looks good but its about the hips and knees while maintaining a flat back.

Last bit, your wrist position is wrong. Straighten out the wrist and the meat of your hand should be pinning the bar into position. Elbows up.

There is a lot to work on here so choose one thing to start. Wrist fix is :02 but sitting back and working the hip drayhve imo is priority #1. Get the plates out and work with the empty bar- record it and see where your hips are, where the weight is in the foot, and drive your hips out of the hole much harder. Then work in up weight.

Hope that helps.
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09-01-2013 , 03:20 PM
Thanks shamrock, I will work on hip drive and wrist positioning. Will try to get another form vid posted within the week.
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09-02-2013 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
rip is my only frame of reference x_x interested to hear more opinions on if i should switch it up. ty brky.

i weigh ~150 so it's only a matter of time before i plateau and need to eat more.
hehe, I was thinking from what I knew of you that was probably close to body weight.
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09-04-2013 , 10:10 PM
How my deads looking?

I think my hips might be rising too fast, and my back might not be straight enough. Thoughts?


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09-07-2013 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
They don't look too bad. Bar closer to your shins so they remain more vertical, hips further back.

Rip's Deadlift Setup

1. Take your stance, feet a little closer than you think it needs to be and with your toes out more than you like. Your shins should be about one inch from the bar, no more. This places the bar over the mid-foot – the whole foot, not the mid-instep.

2. Take your grip on the bar, leaving your hips up. DO NOT MOVE THE BAR.

3. Drop your knees forward and out until your shins touch the bar. DO NOT MOVE THE BAR.

4. Hard part: squeeze your chest up as hard as you can. DO NOT MOVE THE BAR. This establishes a "wave" of extension that goes all the way down to the lumbar, and sets the back angle from the top down. DO NOT LOWER YOUR HIPS – LIFT THE CHEST TO SET THE BACK ANGLE.

5. Squeeze the bar off the floor and drag it up your legs in contact with your skin/sweats until it locks out at the top. If you have done the above sequence precisely as described, the bar will come off the ground in a perfectly vertical path. All the slack will have come out of the arms and hamstrings in step 4, the bar will not jerk off the ground, and your back will be in good extension. You will perceive that your hips are too high, but if you have completed step 4 correctly, the scapulas, bar, and mid-foot will be in vertical alignment and the pull will be perfect. The pull will seem "shorter" this way.

In point # 2, when taking your grip, how much do you bend your knees and how much should you hinge at the hip? This is the part that confuses me the post. I can basically setup with slight hinge and then bending at the knees to reach the bar or hinge almost to 70-80 degree and then slightly bend knees to reach. In both cases I try to keep hips up as much as possible.

In point # 4, I have heard you need to sit back a bit which will lower your hips a bit.

here's a video i posted earlier with 40% of my 3x5 weight.

DL



might as well repost squat @ ~203.5lbs i think. Also posted before.

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09-07-2013 , 06:54 PM
Hoping to perfect my squats for potential deadlifting! Here are my air squats, please critique


Last edited by Jennitron; 09-07-2013 at 06:59 PM.
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09-07-2013 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
Hoping to perfect my squats for potential deadlifting! Here are my air squats, please critique


Paging Lord of the Squat. Paging Lord of the Squat.

I don't think he hangs out here. Okay, paging Prince of Squat (Aidan).
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09-07-2013 , 07:48 PM
I should start putting music to my lift vids, but I'm note a qt...


to be cereal:
don't look straight down like that and with air squats, you need to off set the center of gravity so put your arms out in front of you. both of these will help with keeping that arch in your low back. That putting your hand back there will actually screw with the form.
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09-07-2013 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nuclear500
I should start putting music to my lift vids, but I'm note a qt...


to be cereal:
don't look straight down like that and with air squats, you need to off set the center of gravity so put your arms out in front of you. both of these will help with keeping that arch in your low back. That putting your hand back there will actually screw with the form.
Thank you! Very constructive. I never even thought about the looking down element. I think I put my hand back there to show my back was straight through my billowy shirt, so next time I'll wear a better shirt to prevent this.

Expect a progress video with new song!
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09-08-2013 , 04:30 AM
HBBS 140kgx10


Wondering about the knee position on the way up. Been working hard to drive my knees out on the way down but I don't think I am strong enough to maintain it on the way up. This has killed my calves and it was less painful to bring my knees in so I don't want to learn this **** motor pattern.
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09-08-2013 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
Hoping to perfect my squats for potential deadlifting! Here are my air squats, please critique

I don't like what you do at the bottom, where you come forward some with your upper body. This will be problematic when the weight gets heavier. I know from experience.

It's easier to balance with weight too ime, so things might smooth out then.
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09-08-2013 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
In point # 2, when taking your grip, how much do you bend your knees and how much should you hinge at the hip? This is the part that confuses me the post. I can basically setup with slight hinge and then bending at the knees to reach the bar or hinge almost to 70-80 degree and then slightly bend knees to reach. In both cases I try to keep hips up as much as possible.

In point # 4, I have heard you need to sit back a bit which will lower your hips a bit.

here's a video i posted earlier with 40% of my 3x5 weight.

DL



might as well repost squat @ ~203.5lbs i think. Also posted before.

Your back looks a little rounded on the squats, I don't think you're setting up tight enough.

Squats, from this angle, it looks like you come forward with your upper body. Look up instead of down and keep back on your heels. Keep the chest up the whole time.

Angles should be straight to the side. Please have your cameraman keep it steady, instead of going up and down with you.
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09-08-2013 , 07:07 AM
First time ever HBBS: form check?
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