A quick pubmed search leads me to believe that long-term effects are likely real, including liver and cardiac problems, diabetes like symptoms and the aforementioned infertility. Any more problematic than chronic abuse of other drugs, or even required medicines?? Possibly not. Worth the risk? Obviously a personal question, but I doubt every user of AAS is completely aware of the risks when starting (obviously also true of many recreational drugs). Self education is the key to safety.
I'm surprised Ecstasy is so low on that. All I know about it is from Dr. Drew and he seemed to think that it would cause you to never again feel joy after prolonged exposure.
I ranted about a 6'5 240 20 inch arms jacked guy who defies expectation and is actually "weak" by 2p2 metrics a few pages back. Yesterday I saw him squatting. He was with some other gym regs. They marginally hit full depth with pretty wide stances and only worked up to 225 which looked reasonably challenging. It angers me because nobody would EVER ask "do you lift bro?" to any of these guys. 2 out of the 3 in their group had competed in bodybuilding.
I'm going to see him flat bench eventually and he better do like 400. I feel like Brent Kim, though he probably gets "do you lift bro"ed way more often just because he's 5'5 asian.
I'm jelly. Well, I was. Then I realized it was stupid (sour grapes).
I've never felt jelly in my life. It must be hella negative. I just don't understand why anyone would feel it. Emotional and relationship jelly, I understand.
I've never felt jelly in my life. It must be hella negative. I just don't understand why anyone would feel it. Emotional and relationship jelly, I understand.
I know we were having the roids argument earlier, but I can't see this being healthy long term. Do they just not have natural production and inject as a substitute for their whole lives? Well... even if it's not unhealthy, it would probably be expensive as ****.
Depends, obv people who go TRT/HRT stay on for life, no?
Most of the guys I know that have made the decision to just stay on, for either quality of life (majority are because of this), lifting, whatever, have checkups and bloodwork done.
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How expensive is it to be on roids for 30-40 years? Is it really worth it?
I know a lot of people that spend more on whey protein than they do on testosterone. I guarantee some in the forum spend more per month on supps than a bottle of testosterone would cost.
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A quick pubmed search leads me to believe that long-term effects are likely real, including liver and cardiac problems, diabetes like symptoms and the aforementioned infertility. Any more problematic than chronic abuse of other drugs, or even required medicines?? Possibly not. Worth the risk? Obviously a personal question, but I doubt every user of AAS is completely aware of the risks when starting (obviously also true of many recreational drugs). Self education is the key to safety.
What's the best place to start? I've glanced at steroid forums, and I know this is me being judgemental, but it's hard to trust sources that refer to anyone and everything as bro, brah, broseph, broseph of aramathea, broseidon, lord of the brocean, Broseph Stalin, brobama, or brosauras.
I also get confused when people start talking about cycling and stacking. I couldn't even figure that **** out with creatine. One scoop a day every day. **** it
What's the best place to start? I've glanced at steroid forums, and I know this is me being judgemental, but it's hard to trust sources that refer to anyone and everything as bro, brah, broseph, broseph of aramathea, broseidon, lord of the brocean, Broseph Stalin, brobama, or brosauras.
I also get confused when people start talking about cycling and stacking. I couldn't even figure that **** out with creatine. One scoop a day every day. **** it
Hmmm...i dunno, i would bet one of the millions of forums has some n00b type thread, I'll google and see what comes up.
Are you guys doing 1 rep maxes with dumbells or something that you have to drop them? Just sit up with them and set them down or re-rack them.
I've done 3x5x110s before(might not have gotten all 15 reps IIRC), and at the end of my sets I had very little energy left to do anything except drop them.
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not much worse than pot.
1. Seems to me like alcohol's dependence should be less. I'm aware that there are alcoholics, but considering how many people drink(heavily) and have no issues with it that seems too high to me.
2. Htf is cannabis' physical harm that high? Whats bad about it? Are we assuming that you are 100% guaranteed to get a pure form of the drug(i.e. its significantly more likely that your ecstasy is laced with something dangerous than your cannabis)?
3. I wish caffeine was listed
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I'm surprised Ecstasy is so low on that. All I know about it is from Dr. Drew and he seemed to think that it would cause you to never again feel joy after prolonged exposure.
I did not read this and it's from a few years ago, but it's probably informative.
lol thanks
spelling errors aside I read it.
I was reading all the health-related side effects
cancer, atrophied testicles, breasts, acne, aggression, birth defects, enlarged prostate, and im like alright sounds fine to me
Do employers do pre-employment screening for roids?
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2. Htf is cannabis' physical harm that high? Whats bad about it? Are we assuming that you are 100% guaranteed to get a pure form of the drug(i.e. its significantly more likely that your ecstasy is laced with something dangerous than your cannabis)?
What? It's like the 3rd lowest harmful substance on there. I don't even know what GHB and Khat are.