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04-01-2010 , 10:17 PM
Saw a guy doing 405 LB deadlifts at the gym today, was impressive. Probably the 3rd or 4th person I've seen doing them besides myself in the past 3 months.

Guy had all the right gear you'd expect someone lifting that heavy to have, chalk, straps, good shoes, belt, etc.

He was a big guy of course, but wasn't crazy huge or anything, maybe 6'3 230-240.

The fact I was doing my pathetic 210 lb DL's right next to him was kinda sad but oh well, it beats curling.
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04-01-2010 , 10:34 PM
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Sadly, he is taking engineering. Obv I pointed out he was ******ed, but it can be tough to break down years of bro-science in a few casual convo's. He is likewise perplexed by the idea that you can't develop a muscle unless you blast it 50x and different ways in isolation.

Debating just agreeing with his gorilla methods to get him to stop talking.
damn... weight training is the new poker, almost impossible to deprogram people from the ******ed **** they've been told, even if they're otherwise pretty smart.
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04-01-2010 , 10:38 PM
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damn... weight training is the new poker, almost impossible to deprogram people from the ******ed **** they've been told, even if they're otherwise pretty smart.
i've mentioned this before quite a bit, the parallels are scary.
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04-01-2010 , 10:44 PM
using oly shoes or plates under the heels has a lot more to do with putting your body in an optimal position(much easier to maintain an upright torso) than it does with compensating for some inadequacy on the lifters part.
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04-01-2010 , 11:25 PM
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i've mentioned this before quite a bit, the parallels are scary.
I'm pretty sure the only accessible resources that teach people proper strength training are football and sports programs in schools, the internet, some books, and the small minority of gyms and coaches that actually focus on legitimate strength exercises. I wonder if one day there will be more resources for how to play poker profitably than there are resources on how to train with weights correctly.

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using oly shoes or plates under the heels has a lot more to do with putting your body in an optimal position(much easier to maintain an upright torso) than it does with compensating for some inadequacy on the lifters part.
It's such a damn pain to get the positioning right doing this though. I can barely get my feet in the right place without worrying about having plates under the heels. That's probably bad coordination on my part though, I would definitely squat with 5s under my feet if I could.
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04-01-2010 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
I'm pretty sure the only accessible resources that teach people proper strength training are football and sports programs in schools, the internet, some books, and the small minority of gyms and coaches that actually focus on legitimate strength exercises. I wonder if one day there will be more resources for how to play poker profitably than there are resources on how to train with weights correctly.
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Why only some books but all ofthe internet? Also I think Football and sports programs in schools are not the best resource either.
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04-02-2010 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brent Musburger
Saw a guy doing 405 LB deadlifts at the gym today, was impressive. Probably the 3rd or 4th person I've seen doing them besides myself in the past 3 months.

Guy had all the right gear you'd expect someone lifting that heavy to have, chalk, straps, good shoes, belt, etc.

He was a big guy of course, but wasn't crazy huge or anything, maybe 6'3 230-240.

The fact I was doing my pathetic 210 lb DL's right next to him was kinda sad but oh well, it beats curling.
I was doing some 1rm testing at my uni gym (the gym has a record sheet so I was trying to get on the scoreboard). On my last pull (4 plates which is slightly < my PR) there was literally every person in the freeweight area gathered around watching. Even the extrovert in me was a bit wtf at the situation. FWIW I don't groan loudly or do anything to draw attention to myself when lifting
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04-02-2010 , 02:19 AM
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Why only some books but all ofthe internet? Also I think Football and sports programs in schools are not the best resource either.
Good point, there's probably more misinformation than good info on the internet.

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I was doing some 1rm testing at my uni gym (the gym has a record sheet so I was trying to get on the scoreboard). On my last pull (4 plates which is slightly < my PR) there was literally every person in the freeweight area gathered around watching. Even the extrovert in me was a bit wtf at the situation. FWIW I don't groan loudly or do anything to draw attention to myself when lifting
Precisely the opposite for me. When I do my weekly dl worksets everyone backs away and the attendant comes up to me and meekly tells me to put my shoes on then immediately leaves. I do not put my shoes on. I think I could get away with bringing chalk again too because each individual attendant seems to have very different understandings of what the gym's rules are. Friday girl would probably try and kill me for power snatching or kick me out for doing any compound lift other than bench press at any time in any manner, especially if it's WITHOUT COLLARS!!!1

Of course, your gym has an actual record board, which reflects on the culture of your gym being awesome while mine is a social club with treadmills, plasma televisions, and 20 year old sorority sisters teaching a zumba class. Free weight area is like banishment. I can't imagine everyone being chill enough to keep records.

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04-02-2010 , 09:17 AM
I think a record board in a gym is an awesome idea. If you're completely vain like me all that matters is your strength relative to people in your peer groups.

I guess this is typically done on an honor system?
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04-02-2010 , 10:39 AM
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Using 15kg plates outside 20kg plates make it easier to load and unload deadlifts. I like this.
+1
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04-02-2010 , 01:03 PM
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I think a record board in a gym is an awesome idea. If you're completely vain like me all that matters is your strength relative to people in your peer groups.

I guess this is typically done on an honor system?


I dunno, it's more than that. It's like something to work toward and a goal you have to hit without actually going to the trouble of registering for a competition.

But of course objective assessments of strength can't happen in a judgement-free zone.
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04-02-2010 , 05:45 PM
While a whiteboard can be a good motivator, it can also encourage sillyness, like 70spig depth
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04-04-2010 , 12:23 AM
Felt like I had to contribute to this thread and it will most likely have me come off as the complete tool but these guys made me rage so hard by how they carried themselves.

Saw two bros at the gym today wearing the standard affliction apparel, gloves, bandana. Doing the normal routine of hammer curls while wearing a belt because you don't want to throw out your back doing that heavy weight curling. So I hear them say "I think we've done enough upper body work today" and I wonder what they have planned next?

I walk downstairs after 10 minutes and see them on the smith machine, with a single 45 on each side, and a bench below them so they can do their box squats properly and of course they have the pussy pad on. I actually looked at them and laughed out loud.

I proceeded to put the exact amount of weight and go on the squat rack directly behind them and pumped out 12 reps of jumping squats supersetted with some clean and jerks of the same weight.

I actually even heard them talking about a real exercise and how they should dead lift sometime this week but the other one corrected him and reminded him how they deadlifted last week.
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04-04-2010 , 07:36 AM
HOLY **** 12 REPS OF 135 AND YOU CLEAN AND JERKED IT???
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04-04-2010 , 01:20 PM
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HOLY **** 12 REPS OF 135 AND YOU CLEAN AND JERKED IT???
haha, it was my off day.
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04-04-2010 , 02:50 PM
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I think a record board in a gym is an awesome idea. If you're completely vain like me all that matters is your strength relative to people in your peer groups.

I guess this is typically done on an honor system?
Just need one of the PTs to act as witness. no idea how that effects judgements on form etc. For example, one PT who witnessed the bbell curl record (lol i know) was telling me how the guy used the EZ bar. It still counted.

Last edited by toothy; 04-04-2010 at 02:52 PM. Reason: shud see if I can go for squat record on smith machine
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04-04-2010 , 06:19 PM
Does anyone else find that the hottest most in shape chicks seem to show up in the early morning-early afternoon range vs the afternoon-night segment? Early morning seems to be skewed towards the srs bizness crowd and they are often in good shape, focused, and determined to get some exercise which always seems to give off sexy vibes. Plus less douchebags hanging around trying to chat them up. Morning-early afternoon is filled with the bored housewives who have nothing else to do and just workout a lot are are in super shape and it's their chance to dress skimpy and show off. Cougartown yes, but tickets are cheap and the commute is a breeze.

Afternoon-night is the tired, broken down work crowd trying to fit something in, or the soccer moms too lazy to wake up early enough and just hire a trainer now to go through some cursory bullsheet. Also some high school girls and such who are cute and pretty in their own way but are mostly just rail thin on the virtue of not yet having grown up and been soulcrushed by the corporate world of admin assistants and too many free donuts. Not that hot.

I think I had a point somewhere but if you can find it tell me.
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04-04-2010 , 06:41 PM
lol at saying HS girls are "not that hot"
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04-04-2010 , 06:42 PM
Well many of them are. And many are underage. And the gov't eye is watching. Always watching.

Plus sometimes they smile and then you see braces and feel all weird.
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04-04-2010 , 06:45 PM
South Carolina is 14, Alabama in 16. I don't know who you're looking at, but I almost never find 13 year old girls attractive. And rarely is there a 15 year old who is such an early bloomer that she is hot. Though the vast bulk of middle class women will never have a body better than they were 18. You can try to church this up with aspersions of pedophilia, but its just such an ignorant statement it makes me feel:

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04-04-2010 , 06:52 PM
It's not so much all of that. Yes they may look good. And yes there are swimming into sexually curious waters. Also in CA so legal age is 18.

The real problem is I don't cherish the thought of going to jail. And playing hide the suppository. And by hide I mean in my pooper and suppository I mean angry jailmate penis.
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04-04-2010 , 07:01 PM
Now you're using some handwaving silliness to make the conclusion that a diet inhibits browsing the menu. That is even more ridiculous.
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04-04-2010 , 07:03 PM
<3 Thremp analogies.
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04-04-2010 , 07:13 PM
Hahah...touche touche!

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04-05-2010 , 12:22 AM
this thread might be the nastiest, most arrogant, self rightesous crap, self exposing douchebag crowd that exists on 2+2
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