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Old 04-18-2012, 03:31 PM   #76
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Re: A Fat Guys Walking Thread

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I walk a ton, I'm in average shape, and I do sometimes still get pains when I go on really long walks. I'd say get into the habit of walking but just stop when it hurts. As soon as it doesn't hurt, start again. Also, walking shouldn't be work: get an ipod and bring an audio book or some music or whatever. A friend and talking are best but it's getting really hard to find people that like to walk. I guess my point is that you'll know when to stop, though.

Also, not sure what's so good about Atkins. How does meat compare to asparagus in terms of nutritional value? Keep in mind that just because something's working doesn't mean it's best.
Yes and no. Obviously exercising when injured is not a great idea, but people with weight/exercise issues are not necessarily great at auto-regulation. Sometimes, when you're a bit sore, getting out and doing something is great, and you realise that you weren't really that sore after all. Learning to become aware of injury as opposed to discomfort can really help you push yourself at the appropriate times. I would just be cautious about listening to yourself too much

As for the atkins, there is research that suggests that people who follow a low carb diet naturally settle at a slight caloric deficit, which obviously generates weight loss whilst being quite simple to do. It may not be optimal, but its a reasonable start for a lot of people.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:25 PM   #77
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Cool, thanks man.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:00 PM   #78
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Re: A Fat Guys Walking Thread

I throw in my experience about being overweight for ****s and giggles.

I had been overweight for the majority of my adult life. The highest I remember getting was about 275ish. I'm now down to 180. I tried so much ****...all sorts of diets, exercise routines and none of it worked. All I needed was motivation...and it doesn't ****ing matter where that motivation comes from. Sometimes motivation comes from staring a fine girls ass while slaving away on the elliptical. I just couldn't lose weight by counting calories, planning meals, and keeping a strict exercise routine. I changed how I thought about food...I stopped planning meals and stopped thinking about where I was going for dinner every night. I also don't believe in strict workout routines as you are not attempting to get ripped, you are simply trying to lose weight. It's actually easy. Workout 4-5 a week (don't worry about the weekends...drink / party / pizza all weekend)...if you feel way to tired one day...just skip that day, can't burn yourself out.

I know this sounds extremely novice and might not work for you (or anyone, it's actually hard to explain), but I guess what I'm saying is don't "focus" to hard on losing weight, actually focus less on losing weight and focus more and living a normal life (I always found myself saying "what would a normal (fit/skinny) person do?).

P.S. keeping a blog (or thread) about weight loss is exactly the type of **** that failed for me.

Disregard this if it doesn't apply or if it sounds retarded.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:06 AM   #79
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Re: A Fat Guys Walking Thread

Even working 15 hours I was still able to get in a mile walk and eat 3 good meals today. Gonna try to get breakfast in me every morning since most of the time I don't have time for lunch.

4/18/12

Breakfast - 2 Eggs, 1 Low-Carb Toast (7g of Carbs)
Lunch - Big Salad w/ Caesar Dressing (12g of Carbs)
Dinner - Meat and Veggies (7g of Carbs)

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at some point you should try to lift some heavy ****, adjust calories if you start feeling worn down
There is a planet fitness opening up 5 mins away from me in May. I've been looking into the 5/3/1 program. What would you recommend?

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As you probably know, there's a big rush of initial water weight lost. That's not to say you shouldn't feel good about dropping a ton of weight on the scale, just to let you know it's going to go much, much slower now and you shouldn't get discouraged when it does.
Yeah I know this. It used to happen to me every football season when we started 2-a-days. I'd lose 20-30lbs in the first few days being in the hot summer sun. I won't get discouraged as I know this isn't a get skinny quick scheme. I'm in it for the long haul. A lot of people say they are but are back to eating pizza and mcdonalds the next week but I'm staying focused on my goal to live long and have a healthy life.

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I walk a ton, I'm in average shape, and I do sometimes still get pains when I go on really long walks. I'd say get into the habit of walking but just stop when it hurts. As soon as it doesn't hurt, start again. Also, walking shouldn't be work: get an ipod and bring an audio book or some music or whatever. A friend and talking are best but it's getting really hard to find people that like to walk. I guess my point is that you'll know when to stop, though.
I always listen to music while I walk. I tend to get into songs and before I know it I've walked a mile. I have a cousin that likes to walk so I talk to him a lot while walking. He likes to walk a little then run so I'm going to start adding some light jogs to keep up with him.

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I throw in my experience about being overweight for ****s and giggles.

I had been overweight for the majority of my adult life. The highest I remember getting was about 275ish. I'm now down to 180. I tried so much ****...all sorts of diets, exercise routines and none of it worked. All I needed was motivation...and it doesn't ****ing matter where that motivation comes from. Sometimes motivation comes from staring a fine girls ass while slaving away on the elliptical. I just couldn't lose weight by counting calories, planning meals, and keeping a strict exercise routine. I changed how I thought about food...I stopped planning meals and stopped thinking about where I was going for dinner every night. I also don't believe in strict workout routines as you are not attempting to get ripped, you are simply trying to lose weight. It's actually easy. Workout 4-5 a week (don't worry about the weekends...drink / party / pizza all weekend)...if you feel way to tired one day...just skip that day, can't burn yourself out.

I know this sounds extremely novice and might not work for you (or anyone, it's actually hard to explain), but I guess what I'm saying is don't "focus" to hard on losing weight, actually focus less on losing weight and focus more and living a normal life (I always found myself saying "what would a normal (fit/skinny) person do?).

P.S. keeping a blog (or thread) about weight loss is exactly the type of **** that failed for me.

Disregard this if it doesn't apply or if it sounds retarded.
There is no way I'd be able to do this and lose weight. I know how I am and once I get the slightest bit of ice cream or pasta in me I'll be done. We are different people and I'd love to be able to lose 100lbs doing that but it's just not realistic for me.

I haven't told anyone except a couple people that I'm on a diet. No one from work knows and most of my family doesn't either. So the motivation of keeping this thread is huge to me. I put myself out there so that I would be humiliated if I failed. Here it is for everyone to read to see I couldn't just eat right and exercise to live longer. I can walk and have no stomach issues to where I can't eat so I have no excuse not to be fit.

Everyone might not feel like they have helped me but remember anyone who posts in my thread I thank you. Any help you can give me, my ears are open. Here is a fat guy you can mold into something worth looking at.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:12 AM   #80
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Re: A Fat Guys Walking Thread

I like 5/3/1, I also like the Grey Skull Linear Progression program, that's probably better for a novice lifter.

Is Planet Fitness the one where they ban you for breathing too loudly?
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:15 AM   #81
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Another question for everyone: do you get water loss even if you drink lots of water? Would water loss cut inches as well as weight? I'm also curious what water does in the body, but that's probably a pretty long answer.
Yes. The water loss comes from depleting your glycogen stores. Because of the structure of glycogen a lot of water molecules are required to keep it stable. So in your liver and muscles (mostly) you've got a bunch of glycogen hanging out and even more water. Then over the first day or three of a low carb diet you consume all that glycogen and excrete the water that is now freed up. Drinking water doesn't matter here. Muscles will shrink a little so you will lose some inches.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:48 AM   #82
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I like 5/3/1, I also like the Grey Skull Linear Progression program, that's probably better for a novice lifter.

Is Planet Fitness the one where they ban you for breathing too loudly?
I don't know about breathing to loud but they don't like it when you grunt loud or a lot.

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Yes. The water loss comes from depleting your glycogen stores. Because of the structure of glycogen a lot of water molecules are required to keep it stable. So in your liver and muscles (mostly) you've got a bunch of glycogen hanging out and even more water. Then over the first day or three of a low carb diet you consume all that glycogen and excrete the water that is now freed up. Drinking water doesn't matter here. Muscles will shrink a little so you will lose some inches.
Very good information. I had no idea how that worked. Thanks
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:21 AM   #83
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Also, not sure what's so good about Atkins. How does meat compare to asparagus in terms of nutritional value? Keep in mind that just because something's working doesn't mean it's best.
People who do by-the-book Atkins eat ****loads of vegetables. So it doesn't matter whether meat or asparagus is better, because you're eating both.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:39 AM   #84
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I like your diet selection on the 18th (yesterday). Three decent meals. I wouldn't recommend skipping meals. You lost 18 pounds in two weeks!! But there was some days were your diet was holocaust-like. No need for that. You want to make exercise and eating healthy a lifetime habit and that's not going to occur if you are skipping breakfast (and sometimes lunch on the same day!!!).

Are you in some type of contest? What's the rush to lose so much weight? This same rush will probably cause you to go on full blown monkey food tilt and return to your old ways. Pace your self. Eat more (healthy stuff of course). And of course add more exercise.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:45 PM   #85
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yea, commend him for losing 18 lbs in the same sentence you criticize his diet

let the man be
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:00 PM   #86
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low carb diet to me is basically an easy way to think about eating good ****. Forcing me to eat veg instead of bread/rice/pasta = less cals and more vit/minerals ect.
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:24 PM   #87
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The title of this thread makes LOL everytime I see it, WellPlayed OP
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:22 PM   #88
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I didn't have time for lunch today but it didn't bother me. When I got home I had a great dinner and then went for a 3 mile walk. Gonna take a rest day tomorrow from exercising since I work 16 hours and will only have time for 6 hours of sleep till I have to get back up and go back to work.

4/19/12

Breakfast - 2 Eggs, 2 Slices of Bacon (3g of Carbs)
Lunch - Nothing
Dinner - 1 Chicken Breast, 2 Cups of Asparagus, Side Salad (6g of Carbs)

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Old 04-20-2012, 11:39 AM   #89
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Nice results, enjoying seeing the progress. I think weight lifting is a great idea as the fat starts to melt off, but at the end of the day whatever works
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:19 PM   #90
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id be carefull with the atkins diet... not too sure how healthy it is for your digestive tract.... subscribed to thread tho.. i also just started walking/jogging/jiggling gonna be my 3rd day tomorrow.... gotta start somewhere, right 6'2" 360 lbs and pretty much eating tons of veggies and eggs and no white foods... just wheat everything but my staple diet will consist of eggs and veggies with some poultry and turkey.
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