I notice inconsistencies in OHP mostly when I'm not on point with my form. When I take a second to re-focus, be as tight as possible, and get that perfect center of mass bar path, things always go back to normal.

@ saw that could definitely be my case. It's probably a mixture of natural variation on a lift that's hard to add weight to consistently and inconsistent form. My layback is also supppperrr random and involuntary. If I layback more I get more reps. I try to use 0 on the first 2 sets.

I was on vacation for my cousin's wedding and did 1 short arm workout 9 sets bis and tris on Saturday

Tuesday:
OHP: 155x5x2, 155x10 much better, 2.5lb baby jumps from here and we'll crush those long standing 165x9 and 170x8 records. I think they're seriously from March/April at around the same bw as I am now.
Pullups: bwx21,13,9,9,13 = 65 WIM on last set
Incline DB: 50x15x4
Pulldowns: 140x10x5
Precor chest press: 130x10x5
Cable rows: 140x10x5
Cable curl SS Pushdowns: 3 sets failure 70/100

So winded.

Bodybuilding thoughts:

I've gained a lot of weight recently, my morning weigh is 204 compared to 193 at the end of my cut in sept. I was 188 for a stretch of 10 days or so in Aug. Next time I'm going to very gradually reverse diet like EV is doing. That being said, my arm size is waaayyy up and I can't even get out of a button down shirt without it taking like 3-5 minutes. Back is also much wider, I have trouble getting L size t-shirts on but only on the back side. Ab lines blurred a lot and my waist is larger. I need to measure my arms cold+flexed tomorrow morning. I'm hoping for 17inch cold flexed arms at 185 after I finish my summer cut. I'm probably already a little over 17 at bw 204.

Going to resume lower days tomorrow. Knee+hip feeling v solid.

your physique is perfect. Maintain forever. You're 2p2ers own Jeff Seid.


This is me, too. I always start out super tryhard and then give up after the second rep. I guess it doesn't really matter over time as long as it's consistent.

Delts+arms

Tri set one
BB curl: 75x24 first set, 4 more sets I forgot reps. I was still quite sore so this went way better than expected
Cable rope pushdowns: 80xfailurex5
Side cable raises: 30x10x3, 20x10x2

Tri set two:
DB skullcrushers: 30sx10x5
DB side raises: 15sx15x5
DB incline curls: 30sx10x5

Tri set 3:
Straight pushdowns: 80xfailurex5
Cable curl: 70xfailurex5
Cable side raise: 20x10x5

Cardio: 20 mins lvl 11 139hr 135 cals burned

Way more exhausted from this than i should be. Serves me right for no real lower body workouts for like a month now.

FYP.

Bulking ****ing sucks, should have eternally recomped around 195. At 188 I was just too hungry all the time and didn't really look much better than 195. 195 is my sweetspot and I was around there when I took that pic. I already can't wait to cut again, but I pretty much already committed to bulking and I'm gonna see it through and I hope to reap the rewards in the spring.

Bulking doesn't suck, just kidding. Finally realizing some strength gains from bw gains.

Incline db: 85x8x2, 85x11 gr8 pr, felt strong enough to go 90s next week if I'm feeling okay that day
Pullups: bwx7x10 like over 25 minutes, pitiful
Flat chest press machine: 150x10x5
Pulldown: 140x10x5
Incline chest press machine: 140x10x5
Row machine: 125x10x5

o hey whats up just seeing if anyone's doing bi's and tri's on the same day cu-oh what's up evoken

why are you doing this again?

I don't understand the question. Why lift at all or why do bis+tris same day? Because my arms are a weak point and it's gr8 having 18.5 inchers for a few hours post workout. Basically I think I'll maximize arm growth having a dedicated day as opposed to pairing them with back and chest respectively and I do full body instead of a regular split so pairing them with their complements would be difficult.


But unfortunately you've provoked an aspie rant devoid of punctuation because the question of why I lift weights is persistently on my mind:



Despite that wall of text, I genuinely do enjoy snatching and cjing and will probably keep doing them semi-regularly for fun when I can until I'm too old and infirm to.

uh thanks for the first answer, it's kinda lol but whatever.

The rant is just LOL. Stop listening to Taking Back Sunday and figure out what's making you think like that and change it. I have yet to receive negative criticism of any kind from anyone after starting to lift.

Most recent example was a few days ago some lady at work tapped me on the back about something and started freaking out and was blown away at what a muscular demi god I was. I get anecdotes like this on the reg. At the gym and in the online dating community it's about the same. Obviously at the gym I blend in way more with Jack Swollington but I still get glances from newbies and gym bunnies.

WTF bro. You hang out with the wrong people if this is what you get. I live in fatty mcfattertown and can't remember the last time someone dared to impugn me for lifting.

Closest someone has come is saying damn, does that shirt come in a smaller size? To which I answer wtf no it does not. Child XS is smallest they make unless you go custom.

Lulz

I guess it's just my own myopia. All the asian girls from grad school found it impressive or even described guys who lift as "sexy". That's the only group I care about impressing lolz. I got some surprising negative feedback at a family reunion on my white side. They're all a bunch of skinnyfats who run 5ks for whatever bull**** charity 3-4 times a year.

Dude fitness people who aren't in to the exact same sect of fitness as someone else have no respect for it. That's just a thing. We can't even get along in H&F.

Evoken hates on powerlifters; is shocked when cardiotards / runners hate on him.

Evo I'm disappointed.

100% truth, I'm a total hypocrite. Ignore all the ranting. The majority of the training session I like lifting even independent of body recomposition and I like being big and lean. Overall it's way better than being small and not lean. F haters.

10/27

Squatted up to 225x5 and did some bar work with sn/cj. 225x5 was way too aggressive as my knee began hurting again a day later.

10/28
Press: 157x5x2, 157x11 big pr here. 165x9 is quivering in it's boots. 4 more weeks and it's reign comes to an end.
Pullups: bwx18,11,9,11,9 yikes! Lats+biceps still really sore so did poorly here
Incline DB: 50sx15x4
Pulldowns: 140x10x5
Precor Chest press: 130x10x5
Cable rows: 130x10x5

no extra arms and cardio stuff, was too gassed.

high rep ohp is crazy ****.

Thoughts on synthol? We've all seen the sad, yet also hysterical pictures of people with ****ed up arms online, but Bostin Loyd is very pro synthol and the way he describes it makes it seem uh.... why even lift? Creates scar tissue in the muscle which makes them bigger/stronger as a result and the oil forces the muscle up to the skin.

He says the only way he can imagine people are getting those ****ed up lumpy muscles is from using fake stuff, ie vegetable oil to save money.

Seems like a pretty big step but it's really hard to find people who talk openly and objectively about synthol.

evo and eye are racing to 205x5 military press. I think I've hit it for a triple before when I even pressed a lot.

Definitely not my thing since I just wanna look like a 195lb fitness model or apti aukhodov and have some oly skills. My rack flexibility has already gotten worse from bigger arms.
I think he's right suggesting that virtually all the pros use it on arms+delts.

Tri set 1:
BB curl: 75x28,10,8,6,6 I think I'll bump this up next week
Rope pushdowns: 80x5 sets failure
Cable side raise: 30x10x4, 20x10

Tri set 2:
DB skullcrusher: 30sx12x5
DB side raises: 17.5x25,15,10,10,21
DB incline curls: 30sx10x5

Superset 3:
Cable curl: 70x5 sets failure
Straight pushdown: 90x5 sets failure

Cutting out 2nd round of cable raises. I do enough for delts I think.

You mind giving me some feedback on the boring program I posted in my log?

Couldn't workout yesterday, moved to today

Incline DB press: 90sx6, 90sx10 really pleased with this, expected 7-8. tweaked my wrist putting the dbs back so went soft on pulling motions
Pullups: bwx6x10 21 mins not so pleased with this
db flat bench: 55sx15x4
Pulldowns: 130x10x5
Incline machine: 130x10x5
seated row: 125x10x5

cardio 15 mins lvl 13

Took 2 extra days off b/c of wrist. It felt fine on ohs and presses but not pulling motions so I just did maintenance work on them

OHS: 135x5 lol, loco level immobility after not doing any lower body since september.
OHP: 160x5x2, 160x9 felt like lungs gave out before muscles. Wrist fine on presses.
Pullups: bwx8x5
Incline DB: 55sx10x4
Pulldowns: 120x10x5
Precor chest press: 135x10x4

I'm excited to regain mobility and leg strength and start oly lifting again.

I'm waking up at 207-209 already. I'm not seeing this bulk all the way through. I feel like my marginal strength gains while gaining weight compared to recomping are extremely low. I'm ready to get back down to the 195-198 range and recomp for eternity and basically never bulk or cut unless I end up doing an olytard meet.

Wrist doing better, only moderate pain on db incline curls

Tri set 1:
BB curl: 80x19,7,7,9,3
Rope pushdowns: 80x5sets failure
Cable side raise: 30sx10x5 hard

Tri set 2:
Db incline curl: 30sx10x5
DB side raise: 15sx15x5
DB skullcrusher: 30sx11x5

Superset:
Cable curl: 70x5 sets failure
V bar pushdown: 90x 5 sets failure


Cardio: 20 mins bike lvl 11 139 avg hr.

I squatted 185x5 last workout, forgot to log

hbbs: up to 225x5x2 no pain, next sesh 225x10 then back to actual lower body days
BB 45deg incline: 185x5x2, 185x9 fkn lol, so weak
HS chest: 185x10x5
Precor chest press: 115x15x5

That's all, KP style low volume. No dbs on incline bc wrist hurt just farmers walking dbs and same reason for no back stuff.

MY VOLUME IS HIGH

Wrist still not great, I did 8 pullups and my left hand couldn't hold teh bar so did pressing motions only.

Press: 162x5x2, 162x7 ...sigh
Incline BB 45deg: 135x6x4, 135x13
Precor Chest press: 130x10x5

I'm thinking about just never pressing again because every other session seems to go horribly. Incline BB 45 degree seems to not bother my pec tendon and I'm sure I could make some sick gains on it since it's a new lift to me. I'm open to reader suggestions:

Should I replace overhead press with 45 degree incline bb press and do it twice a week? Or should I keep pressing and attribute the bad sessions to variance?