Hey guys. This thread will be a carry over of the other MMA training thread, but will focus on grappling, I think me or someone else will also make a striking thread as well. You can post just about anything, stories, questions, general grappling chat. Introduce yourself, what training you have etc.

I train BJJ 3-4 times a week, 2 days in the Gi, one day No Gi which has a much more wrestling focus. I train with a few good Judo guys who come to BJJ and we try get in a bit of Judo here and there to. Been training about a year and 4 months, have 4 stripes on my white belt and have competed twice, medaled once, I posted the videos in the other thread.

video of me doing a choke series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSnp...eature=related

brown belt
been training about 5 years. Mostly no gi

Couple more of my vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxgmG...x7zj4EDGD_HkD1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ud9...gfBWrbl1XxDyIc

Nice video, Its funny I just figured out recently about falling onto my right side if I am attacking with the right arm like that.

Glad to see this thread has found a new home.

Nice videos Root. Pinch headlock series is something I used to do often. I'd like to start working it into my game again.

My training has been terrible the last couple months. I'm hoping to dedicate some more time in the New Year. Anyone have some training goals they want to share? I'm a fan of Lloyd Irvin's system of setting 3-month goals, as it usually takes that long to really incorporate something new into your game. I haven't quite figured out what to focus on yet.

I think I am going to go back and focus on the guard for a bit. I always have felt pretty solid on top, passing etc, and focused the last little while with halfguard stuff and kind of got caught up in that for awhile.

Just got home from a really good no gi class, got to get 4-5 good rolls in until I was just done. I have been working a lot of arm dragging and other back takes from the guard, as I also reaaaaaly want to focus on the entire back game.

Good videos, root. I'll check the rest out later.

These are great, thanks. I've been waiting on my thumb to heal for months and living on these type of videos. I'm back at 95% and about ready to earn some colors

imo the butterfly guard is the only way to go if you are not crazy tall and lanky. it's really easy to sweep and attack from butterfly. Also easy to leglock off of it.

also it's really hard for larger guys to smash you because if they drive in to smash, you can use your legs and arms together to not get smashed. You make yourself into a ball which keeps all the weight off.

Another cool advantage to using butterfly hooks is that it's really hard to do traditional passes so people will put their head down when they pass which makes it easy to guillotine people.

overall for no gi esp i think it's the only way to go.


Also if you start playing around on the back, try some chokes with no hooks in. you really dont need any hooks because your arms make the frame so there is no need for hooks.

If you get the hooks in it is pretty intuitive on how to get out. get rid of hook, go to that side, turn in whatever. But if you do not have any hooks there is no real way to get out. Also if they do get out you are never in a bad position. I dont see any vids on youtube that illustrate this so i might have to do one tom morning. It's not a rear naked choke that you will be using. It's kind of like this one. This is not perfect but is kinda what I am talking about.



Also advice to everyone starting out. Concentrate on chokes and leg locks. They are the only real submissions. Everything else is inferior. There are alot of dudes I wouldnt want to fight with a broken arm.

Root,
Was that last part in the context of self defense?

100% for self defense but even for sport bjj. You dont see too many top tear guys using many other moves. The moves that you can submit people your size and strength are going to be chokes or leg lock.

Just saw this omoplata defense on Sherdog, I think it's pretty awesome. Can't wait to try it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1BmAmc4f290

I have no idea how to embed. If someone is feeling helpful, pm me.


Now that I think about it, I'm skeptical that this would work on someone larger than you. Seems like you need too much momentum to pull this off.

^^^ Probably a noob quesion, but should Siver really be crossing his feet like that? That's something that was drilled into me from almost my first session to never ever do under any circumstances.

Matrat - Just take the code from the end of the youtube URL - the bit after the last = sign, so in this case it's "1BmAmc4f290". The put that inside "youtube" 1BmAmc4f290 "/youtube" tags (replace " " with [ ]).



Last night I locked up some kind of inverted triangle but couldn't finish it off. Had him locked up in it for quite a while but couldn't choke him and eventually he rolled me over and broke it. Hoping someone here can identify the technique and point me to a vid or give me some tips. I've searched youtube but can't find it.

I was on my back with my opponent in side control (his body on my left side). This is where it gets a bit vague.... I somehow threw my right leg up and towards me then wrapped it over his head and locked my right ankle into the back of my left knee, and his left arm was the one inside the triangle. At this point I was still on my back, with my left ear pretty much touching his right hip.

Sorry if that's a bit confusing, I can try and clarify it more if needed, but I'm hoping this is some kind of standard technique that you more experienced guys will know straight away. Would really like to a) know how to do it again, and b) how to finish it.

Does that omoplata defense still work after attacker figure 4s his legs?

(I don't think it does, but it is weird he doesn't mention that in the vid.)

Found what I was looking for. This is exactly what I did, except I think he scooped his hand under my leg himself, I didn't have to put it there. Don't know why I couldn't finish it though, starting to think I just didn't squeeze hard enough....



(I know Submissions 101 have a bad rep, but their vids seem ok to me for the basics, and this was the only place I found what I wanted anyway)

Edit - if any of you guys do any stand-up fighting too, my stand-up thread (in this forum) is getting a bit lonely and in danger of being pushed off the first page by threads discussing who'd win in a fight between the Undertaker and Jon Jones if there was a ladder in the ring.

That triangle from bottom side is almost impossible to finish. You can catch it, but because of your position you can't really make any of the adjustments you need to in order to cinch it tight enough to choke. I've been caught in it a few times (including by more skilled people), and never did I even feel remotely threatened. The stars have to align for you to actually finish it.

Royler did show us the move in a seminar, but he used the triangle to distract the guy and isolate his near side arm for a kimura which you use to roll him over and reverse the position. This is something I've pulled off a couple of times.


Thanks for the embedding info.

As far as I know you should never do it.

I think it would, but the issue I have is the guy in the video isn't really being heavy at all with his legs. When someone postures in your omoplata, you're going to be putting a lot of downward pressure on his shoulder to try and flatten him out. And the more pressure on you shoulder the harder it's going to be to sit through and do this defense. I don't know, hopefully I'll get to try it tonight.

Hm, looks to me like the figure 4 leg in front of head/chest would block the movement. It's hard for me to visualize w/o actually trying it though.

Yeah, agree with this. Figure 4'ing the legs won't make this defense any harder, but if you can get your head up high enough to do this defense, I think it would just be easier to step over your opponent's head and come to cross-side. Once your head is this high, you're not really in any danger from the Omoplata anyway.

Not to start a ****storm, but I would really not recommend studying anything by submissions 101. That guy is kind of a joke in the BJJ community. Not to say some of his videos aren't fine, but some clearly aren't and hes kind of a scum bag.


Edit* Lol didnt notice you mentioned them having a bad rep nm

Newaza, what do you think about this technique to flatten someone out in the omoplata? It's by the same guy.




In case you guys can't tell, I really dig the omoplata. I hardly ever go for armbars/triangles against bigger guys, but omoplatas I hit all the time. Usually I just sweep with it, though.

It looks pretty reasonable. Never tried it exactly that way. It might be hard to get enough leverage to really flatten the guy out by scooting away like that, but it does seem like a pretty solid way to at least hold the position. Will give it a try sometime. The way he says "A-moplata" kind of tilts me. hehe.

If you're a big omoplata fan, you should check out Rafael Lovato's Omoplata iphone app. I think it costs like $5.00, but it has lots of techniques in it. Plus Lovato is one of the best competition omoplata guys.

omoplatas are super good and useful. IMO way more than triangles, and armbars.

To flatten ppl out you have to really use momentum to kick him down when you first throw it. If you dont use that momentum and you are not way bigger/stronger than who you are rolling with then you will never be able to finish it.

You should view it as a sweep though, then be extra happy if you happen to finish someone.

I love omoplatas, but man it sucks when you throw one on a big guy and you can't sit up all the way. It's pretty worthless at that point.

Also, cliffs on Sub101 guys being scummy/shady/jokes? C'mon cc, tell me what the UG be sayin'!

Basically Ari, the red haired guy that head it, is a affiliate of Eddie and 10th planet, and opened his own school in Victoria, even though there is a super legit Black belt in the same town. In all the original videos he put up he is wearing a black belt, it was later discovered its a black belt in like akidojitsu or some ****, so he "negotiated" with a legit black belt in California to get his blue belt. There are videos of him competing as a blue belt and losing to white belts? (not sure why hes allowed to compete as a blue against them) and hes just not very good period. I am not saying you have to be a killer to be a teacher, but you shouldn't be getting tossed around in white belt tournaments against white belts either.

In his latest videos he is now a purple belt, which is a joke, and I think he is a brown in Eddies system which is more lol. That and the fact that a LOT of his videos are just bad technique straight up.