BJJ/Wrestling/Judo Training Thread

caught_clean · 12-17-2011, 07:02 PM

Hey guys. This thread will be a carry over of the other MMA training thread, but will focus on grappling, I think me or someone else will also make a striking thread as well. You can post just about anything, stories, questions, general grappling chat. Introduce yourself, what training you have etc.

I train BJJ 3-4 times a week, 2 days in the Gi, one day No Gi which has a much more wrestling focus. I train with a few good Judo guys who come to BJJ and we try get in a bit of Judo here and there to. Been training about a year and 4 months, have 4 stripes on my white belt and have competed twice, medaled once, I posted the videos in the other thread.

Rootabager · 12-17-2011, 09:48 PM

video of me doing a choke series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSnp...eature=related

brown belt
been training about 5 years. Mostly no gi

Rootabager · 12-17-2011, 09:51 PM

Couple more of my vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxgmG...x7zj4EDGD_HkD1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ud9...gfBWrbl1XxDyIc

caught_clean · 12-17-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootabager

video of me doing a choke series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSnp...eature=related

brown belt
been training about 5 years. Mostly no gi

Nice video, Its funny I just figured out recently about falling onto my right side if I am attacking with the right arm like that.

Newaza · 12-19-2011, 11:37 PM

Glad to see this thread has found a new home.

Nice videos Root. Pinch headlock series is something I used to do often. I'd like to start working it into my game again.

My training has been terrible the last couple months. I'm hoping to dedicate some more time in the New Year. Anyone have some training goals they want to share? I'm a fan of Lloyd Irvin's system of setting 3-month goals, as it usually takes that long to really incorporate something new into your game. I haven't quite figured out what to focus on yet.

caught_clean · 12-20-2011, 12:49 AM

I think I am going to go back and focus on the guard for a bit. I always have felt pretty solid on top, passing etc, and focused the last little while with halfguard stuff and kind of got caught up in that for awhile.

Just got home from a really good no gi class, got to get 4-5 good rolls in until I was just done. I have been working a lot of arm dragging and other back takes from the guard, as I also reaaaaaly want to focus on the entire back game.

Phresh · 12-20-2011, 06:36 AM

Good videos, root. I'll check the rest out later.

ActionJeff · 12-20-2011, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootabager

video of me doing a choke series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSnp...eature=related

brown belt
been training about 5 years. Mostly no gi

These are great, thanks. I've been waiting on my thumb to heal for months and living on these type of videos. I'm back at 95% and about ready to earn some colors

Rootabager · 12-20-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by caught_clean

I think I am going to go back and focus on the guard for a bit. I always have felt pretty solid on top, passing etc, and focused the last little while with halfguard stuff and kind of got caught up in that for awhile.

Just got home from a really good no gi class, got to get 4-5 good rolls in until I was just done. I have been working a lot of arm dragging and other back takes from the guard, as I also reaaaaaly want to focus on the entire back game.

imo the butterfly guard is the only way to go if you are not crazy tall and lanky. it's really easy to sweep and attack from butterfly. Also easy to leglock off of it.

also it's really hard for larger guys to smash you because if they drive in to smash, you can use your legs and arms together to not get smashed. You make yourself into a ball which keeps all the weight off.

Another cool advantage to using butterfly hooks is that it's really hard to do traditional passes so people will put their head down when they pass which makes it easy to guillotine people.

overall for no gi esp i think it's the only way to go.

Also if you start playing around on the back, try some chokes with no hooks in. you really dont need any hooks because your arms make the frame so there is no need for hooks.

If you get the hooks in it is pretty intuitive on how to get out. get rid of hook, go to that side, turn in whatever. But if you do not have any hooks there is no real way to get out. Also if they do get out you are never in a bad position. I dont see any vids on youtube that illustrate this so i might have to do one tom morning. It's not a rear naked choke that you will be using. It's kind of like this one. This is not perfect but is kinda what I am talking about.

Also advice to everyone starting out. Concentrate on chokes and leg locks. They are the only real submissions. Everything else is inferior. There are alot of dudes I wouldnt want to fight with a broken arm.

Kedu · 12-20-2011, 07:45 PM

Root,
Was that last part in the context of self defense?

Rootabager · 12-20-2011, 10:38 PM

100% for self defense but even for sport bjj. You dont see too many top tear guys using many other moves. The moves that you can submit people your size and strength are going to be chokes or leg lock.

matrat · 12-21-2011, 12:18 AM

Just saw this omoplata defense on Sherdog, I think it's pretty awesome. Can't wait to try it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1BmAmc4f290

I have no idea how to embed. If someone is feeling helpful, pm me.

Now that I think about it, I'm skeptical that this would work on someone larger than you. Seems like you need too much momentum to pull this off.

PokerRon247 · 12-21-2011, 06:42 AM

^^^ Probably a noob quesion, but should Siver really be crossing his feet like that? That's something that was drilled into me from almost my first session to never ever do under any circumstances.

Matrat - Just take the code from the end of the youtube URL - the bit after the last = sign, so in this case it's "1BmAmc4f290". The put that inside "youtube" 1BmAmc4f290 "/youtube" tags (replace " " with [ ]).

Last night I locked up some kind of inverted triangle but couldn't finish it off. Had him locked up in it for quite a while but couldn't choke him and eventually he rolled me over and broke it. Hoping someone here can identify the technique and point me to a vid or give me some tips. I've searched youtube but can't find it.

I was on my back with my opponent in side control (his body on my left side). This is where it gets a bit vague.... I somehow threw my right leg up and towards me then wrapped it over his head and locked my right ankle into the back of my left knee, and his left arm was the one inside the triangle. At this point I was still on my back, with my left ear pretty much touching his right hip.

Sorry if that's a bit confusing, I can try and clarify it more if needed, but I'm hoping this is some kind of standard technique that you more experienced guys will know straight away. Would really like to a) know how to do it again, and b) how to finish it.

plexiq · 12-21-2011, 06:58 AM

Does that omoplata defense still work after attacker figure 4s his legs?

(I don't think it does, but it is weird he doesn't mention that in the vid.)

PokerRon247 · 12-21-2011, 07:29 AM

Found what I was looking for. This is exactly what I did, except I think he scooped his hand under my leg himself, I didn't have to put it there. Don't know why I couldn't finish it though, starting to think I just didn't squeeze hard enough....

(I know Submissions 101 have a bad rep, but their vids seem ok to me for the basics, and this was the only place I found what I wanted anyway)

Edit - if any of you guys do any stand-up fighting too, my stand-up thread (in this forum) is getting a bit lonely and in danger of being pushed off the first page by threads discussing who'd win in a fight between the Undertaker and Jon Jones if there was a ladder in the ring.