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04-11-2013 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
It is probably similarly true for biology PhDs, with regards to supply far outstripping demand
In general, the supply of any PhD is also going way up; the old man always tells me about how, in the old days, in the hard sciences you were given four years (and maaaybe five) to get your **** together and publish enough to get a PhD (i.e. there was a non-trivial chance of failing out, or whatever you want to call it, before earning your degree). Now, partially because we're a more entitled generation and partly because professors use graduate students as indentured servants, the average time to a PhD in biology is probably over 7 years (it was approaching it the last I checked), and there are many more candidates then there were 40 years ago. I would have considered going that route, but the chance of being 31 or 32 after a postdoc and just beginning to earn a non-third world wage was a bit too much to handle (plus I was burned out of school).

I'm currently finishing up a master's and trying to keep up with my professional development, and it's worked out pretty well so far (hopefuly it will continue).
04-11-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
Supply is going up (several universities have recently opened law schools and none are shutting down) while demand is going down or, at best, stagnating (mostly due to automation).


Really, the solution is for half the law schools in the country to shut down while the rest slash tuition, but that ain't gonna ****ing happen.
I basically agree, but it's not like Tampa U College of Law or whatever opening up really effects things much at the top.
04-11-2013 , 03:23 PM
Definitely wouldn't recommend Law
school to anyone unless they are going HYS.
You won't get hired by the top firms, you won't have respect from your peers, it's just not a good idea.
You could be the next great lawyer, but if you don't go to a top school you'll never get the chance to show it.
If I Hadn't had the chance at HYS I would not have gone to law school.
04-11-2013 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DWarrior
Friend of a friend went to CMU for bio, masseuse now.

Dat recession
04-11-2013 , 03:27 PM
DT - what do you do again? Something that involves managing/hiring/owning a something company that something something metal?

Everyone should guess what I majored in. Although I probably have mentioned it several times.

I work now as Head of Accounts at a small custom web design/development company.
04-11-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
DT - what do you do again? Something that involves managing/hiring/owning a something company that something something metal?

Everyone should guess what I majored in. Although I probably have mentioned it several times.

I work now as Head of Accounts at a small custom web design/development company.
Urinal cake delivery systems
04-11-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
DT - what do you do again? Something that involves managing/hiring/owning a something company that something something metal?

Everyone should guess what I majored in. Although I probably have mentioned it several times.

I work now as Head of Accounts at a small custom web design/development company.
Econ?

You definitely didn't major in squats (awww snap!)
04-11-2013 , 03:45 PM
BtM - Lol how I wish. Wait....

DW - Great guess - I thought I would when I started college, but no. And yeah, definitely not squats. Or bench/OHP/or probably DL for that matter, .
04-11-2013 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
DT - what do you do again? Something that involves managing/hiring/owning a something company that something something metal?
Basically you are correct. Specifically, what I do at Initech is I take the specifications from the customer and bring them down to the software engineers.
04-11-2013 , 03:47 PM
Yugo, I don't know what your major was, but I would guess that you spent a bit of time on traps in college.
04-11-2013 , 03:59 PM
I got a great legal education. Didn't want to practice law but got pressured into big law. Hated life. Opened small shop in rural area, set my own hours, it still kinda sucks but its way better than 70+ hours biglaw job.

I'm currently working on transitioning only to jobs I like with people I like. Someday I might go to massage therapy school so I can hurt the people I like.
04-11-2013 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
Everyone should guess what I majored in. Although I probably have mentioned it several times.

I work now as Head of Accounts at a small custom web design/development company.
I'm going to guess bioengineering, based on your love for the transgenders.
04-11-2013 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
http://gizmodo.com/5994165/the-scien...=recirculation

Starting slowly, so you know your limits and don't injure yourself, try moving over to a routine where instead of, say, three sets of one hundred crunches, you're adding weight to a sit-up, leg lift, or other abdominal exercise to the point where you can only do a set of eight to twelve reps. Then do three sets of those. This applies to your lower abs and your obliques (your side muscles, used for twisting) as well.

I recommend doing an exercise that focuses on your upper and middle abs, then an exercise that focuses on your obliques, then an exercise that focuses on your lower abs (in whatever order you choose). That will basically cover your whole six-pack zone. Bonus tip: with most ab exercises, adding a bit of a twist will help engage your obliques and transverse abdominal muscles, but again, be careful when you're starting out and adding weight.
That has a few shreds of truth woven between the back injury inducing horrible advice. Please dont ever twist or flex your low back doing ab exercises. There are a lot of safe ways to work the obliques without twisting the low back.
04-11-2013 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
Please dont ever twist or flex your low back doing ab exercises.
Please don't ever call it a "low back."
04-11-2013 , 04:21 PM
Started to multi quote, gave up after seeing 3459348593458 new posts. Holy ****, slow down bros. Applause.gif to AIOT for solid gif post.
04-11-2013 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
In general, the supply of any PhD is also going way up; the old man always tells me about how, in the old days, in the hard sciences you were given four years (and maaaybe five) to get your **** together and publish enough to get a PhD (i.e. there was a non-trivial chance of failing out, or whatever you want to call it, before earning your degree). Now, partially because we're a more entitled generation and partly because professors use graduate students as indentured servants, the average time to a PhD in biology is probably over 7 years (it was approaching it the last I checked), and there are many more candidates then there were 40 years ago. I would have considered going that route, but the chance of being 31 or 32 after a postdoc and just beginning to earn a non-third world wage was a bit too much to handle (plus I was burned out of school).

I'm currently finishing up a master's and trying to keep up with my professional development, and it's worked out pretty well so far (hopefuly it will continue).
Its such a scame.

Average age of post-docs i know: 36
Average length of post-doc (so far): 7 years
Average length of PhD: still about the same, but that's just because if you need to stay longer they graduate you, change you to post-doc status but keep you around until you've actually done enough to graduate.

There is plenty of work for biology trained people in industry, but at the PhD level the jobs get very specific, so unlucky if you don't have that exact set of skills. Law school looking attractive.
04-11-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Funnie II
Please don't ever call it a "low back."
Spelling & grammar nits itt.
04-11-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by downtown
Basically you are correct. Specifically, what I do at Initech is I take the specifications from the customer and bring them down to the software engineers.
Where does the metal figure in?

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Originally Posted by downtown
Yugo, I don't know what your major was, but I would guess that you spent a bit of time on traps in college.
Did meet fiancee in college. She has nice, feminine traps imo. So story checks out.

But otherwise, hurr hurr.

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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
I'm going to guess bioengineering, based on your love for the transgenders.
Hurr hurr. And yeah, not what I majored in anyway.

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Originally Posted by Soulman
Started to multi quote, gave up after seeing 3459348593458 new posts. Holy ****, slow down bros. Applause.gif to AIOT for solid gif post.
First time LC thread has gotten good this month imo. Still waiting a writeup from JF for last month - the thread probably just never got off to the proper start without it.
04-11-2013 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brown Keeper
Definitely wouldn't recommend Law
school to anyone unless they are going HYS.
You won't get hired by the top firms, you won't have respect from your peers, it's just not a good idea.
You could be the next great lawyer, but if you don't go to a top school you'll never get the chance to show it.
If I Hadn't had the chance at HYS I would not have gone to law school.
I agree that law school is not a good idea at the moment and in all likelihood is a rather poor investment in yourself given the over-saturated market and I think that will remain the case for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't recommend anyone go to law school right now unless they can get into one of the top schools or get a free ride from a very solid regional school.

Having said that, the above is complete and utter nonsense. You'll never get a chance to be a great lawyer unless you go HYS? Huh? You don't have to go to HYS to be a good lawyer. You don't need to work for a top firm to be a great lawyer. I know plenty of excellent lawyers who never practiced in large firms and never attended a top 14 school, yet still manage to garner respect from their peers, make **** tons of money, work on high stakes cases, and have demonstrated themselves to be top notch advocates. It's all doable, but just a lot more difficult to do now than it was ~10 years ago and far more risky.
04-11-2013 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulman
Started to multi quote, gave up after seeing 3459348593458 new posts. Holy ****, slow down bros. Applause.gif to AIOT for solid gif post.
It's Thursday. We all have the gym day off.
04-11-2013 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by downtown
Basically you are correct. Specifically, what I do at Initech is I take the specifications from the customer and bring them down to the software engineers.
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
Where does the metal figure in?
04-11-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DWarrior
It's Thursday. We all have the gym day off.
I refuse to be part of the mainstream and train Tue/Th/Sat/(Sun). Rebel WITH a cause.
04-11-2013 , 04:37 PM
But then you have to lift after Friday night binge drinking...?
04-11-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by downtown
I'll be honest with you, I love his music. I do. I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman".
04-11-2013 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by saw7988
But then you have to lift after Friday night binge drinking...?
True nomzying involves a glass or two of fine wine. This isn't a frat man, there are rules in Norway's nomzie circles.

      
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