Are you telling me that there are some degrees that can prepare you for both excel AND access? Surely Microsoft Word and OneNote will require another degree though. A Masters, mayhaps?

Law school seems like a fish move

Yeah, agreed, but you're not necessarily in a strictly math based field. My point was more that if you major in something like Topology or Cosmology, the job opportunities in that specific field are likely to be pretty slim, but you can certainly get hired by companies that are actual interested in hiring people that know how to think critically. I mean, I majored in Chemistry and now I work in Biotech, so I'm not, strictly speaking, using my major either . . .

I believe most universities these days require you to be in a PhD program before they even beging to teach you excel. You can normally get a simple undergrad in Notepad (see: Snitch) but if you want to step into the big leagues you need dat spreadsheet.

I'll take a degree in 18th Century English literature, no job prospects, and crushing student loan debt for $300k, Alex.

There's a good reason for that.

they are not talking about that, they are talking about this



still fatty tho

Journalism. But that's deceiving since our department houses everything from traditional journalism to advertising to telecommunications. I specialized in media research and advertising management. Not a math degree, but it does require me to crunch of ton of numbers. Good thing I have software to do that for me. I just have to be able to collect the data and define the parameters. I am yet further removed from what people in the department normally study since my research focused on the publishing industry.

It's terribly bad now, but in several years I think it'll get a lot better.

I know 5 lawyers very well. Mrs. BtM, 3 of her law school friends, and a friend of mine. All have graduated within the last 3 years.

Mrs. BtM: decent job now, decent pay, lots of upside in the next year or so though. ~45hrs/week

Friend A: 80hrs/week at big law firm, 200k. he hates his life.
Friend B: 80hrs/week at big law firm, 200k. he hates his life.
Friend C: 40hrs/week at govt, 60k.

My friend: 60hrs/week at small firm, 70k. he hates his life.

People will still need lawyers in 10 years. I imagine having a JD then will be beneficial.

law school is like being an english major. Fine if you can get into the best schools. Stupid otherwise.

Pretty sure it's still not fine to be an English major, even if you can get into the best schools. If you're interested in being in academia, there just aren't enough jobs, and if you're interested in writing books on 1940s pulp communist comics, then there definitely aren't jobs.

My wife's cousin's communist husband, who took 10 years to get his English PhD and now is an adjunct professor a few different places for no money, is a professional activist essentially, and one his causes du jour is trying to unionize adjunct professors. He's also struggling to understand why no college wants to hire him as anything more than an adjunct. Interesting guy.

Nah, the supply of lawyers way exceeds the demand, and I've read an article or two recently about some law schools potentially being sued for misleading students about job prospects after graduation. If you go to a top 10 or 20 law school, work hard, and go the corporate law route, you'll get a good job, but you'll detest life for as long as you do it; if you don't, you'll be lucky to get anything, and you probably won't make enough to pay off your graduate loans (to say nothing of your undergraduate loans, which you probably also have). It's just another example of the academic myth that colleges have successfully sold to wide-eyed undergraduates over the last 30 years; paying 200k for a degree in Communications from a state school (or any school, really) was never sustainable even in the best of economic times, and it certainly isn't close to sustainable now.

http://gizmodo.com/5994165/the-scien...=recirculation

Starting slowly, so you know your limits and don't injure yourself, try moving over to a routine where instead of, say, three sets of one hundred crunches, you're adding weight to a sit-up, leg lift, or other abdominal exercise to the point where you can only do a set of eight to twelve reps. Then do three sets of those. This applies to your lower abs and your obliques (your side muscles, used for twisting) as well.

I recommend doing an exercise that focuses on your upper and middle abs, then an exercise that focuses on your obliques, then an exercise that focuses on your lower abs (in whatever order you choose). That will basically cover your whole six-pack zone. Bonus tip: with most ab exercises, adding a bit of a twist will help engage your obliques and transverse abdominal muscles, but again, be careful when you're starting out and adding weight.

Law students can't handle the truth imo

Huge number of law school grads can't find any legal job nowadays.


Law School Scam blog (written by Colorado law school professor Paul Campos)

Cliffs:
All law schools lie about employment rates of grads
All law school lie about how much grads make
Many law school grads will never ever make enough from the legal profession to even pay off their (non-dischargable) debt
Unless you get a full ride scholarship or get into Harvard/Yale/Stanford, law school is almost certainly a terrible idea
Law school could be the very worst decision you ever make in your life ($200k in non-dischargable debt hanging over your head for life, yo)

I agree that it currently does, bigtime. In 10 years I dunno. That's all I'm sayin!

Supply is going up (several universities have recently opened law schools and none are shutting down) while demand is going down or, at best, stagnating (mostly due to automation).


Really, the solution is for half the law schools in the country to shut down while the rest slash tuition, but that ain't gonna ****ing happen.

Talking about option 3, any job. Degree from top school = interviews at any entry level career you want (absent specific technical jobs), essentially. imo and from those I know, just anecdotes tho.

I used to wear 34x32 pants and they were an okay length. Then I started wearing 34x34 and they were a little long but better. Now all my 34x34s are too short. 34x35 isn't even a size. hope I die.

Thanks squats!

It is probably similarly true for biology PhDs, with regards to supply far outstripping demand

Squats are making you taller?

Friend of a friend went to CMU for bio, masseuse now.

Dat recession

They're making my ass and legs huge