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07-11-2014 , 06:19 PM
Thought of opening a new thread just to monitor my progress.
This is my other thread fwiw
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/85...tween-1377203/

Ill be following this program, http://www.50pullups.com/
Ill do the test Sat or SUnday, will take before and after pics, and comment on this worth noting. Will take the time later to make a proper post, just thought I get started.
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07-11-2014 , 08:12 PM
Nice. Good luck! I might try this as well depending how well you do with it.
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07-12-2014 , 12:35 AM
Cool cool, the program looks very simple but there are things Im not really sure about, ie, Ive been doing 3x of pullups, chinups, row* and dips, Idk if I can still do a few of those each sesh, or if its better to be just do the program. It does say how much to rest between sets and days, but I would like to know if I can still do dumbbells 2 or 3 times a week without damaging my progress

Last edited by Don Melchor; 07-12-2014 at 12:35 AM. Reason: I tried contacting them through FB and mail, but no luck
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07-12-2014 , 12:42 PM
If it doesn't involve the back and biceps, why would it interfere? You think pull-ups draining on CNS and therefore if we do extra work we might not make GAINZ? No.

As long as you are not doing curls, deadlifts, abs, and back movements on off days you will be fine.
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07-12-2014 , 01:13 PM
Maybe mix in some power. Like when (or if already) you're able to do 20 pullups, do some sets where you hold a dumbbell between your ankles (ankles crossed). Or if you have access to a seated pull-down machine, that would achieve the same thing.
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07-12-2014 , 03:44 PM
Why did you move from your last program?
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07-12-2014 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
If it doesn't involve the back and biceps, why would it interfere? You think pull-ups draining on CNS and therefore if we do extra work we might not make GAINZ? No.

As long as you are not doing curls, deadlifts, abs, and back movements on off days you will be fine.
You don't think doing squats would effect his gains?
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07-13-2014 , 02:31 PM
50 pull ups seems impossible to me at least with strict form. Finnish NR is 39 reps and it's done in <70kg weightclass. Although those reps have to each start from dead hang, idk if you're going for that.

Had a quick look at the program and it seems kinda weird that there's only bw reps. From what I've understand most people tend to train even to max rep pullup competitions mostly with weighted reps and only starting to mix in significant amount of bw reps when competition time is getting closer.
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07-13-2014 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chinz
50 pull ups seems impossible to me at least with strict form. Finnish NR is 39 reps and it's done in <70kg weightclass. Although those reps have to each start from dead hang, idk if you're going for that.

Had a quick look at the program and it seems kinda weird that there's only bw reps. From what I've understand most people tend to train even to max rep pullup competitions mostly with weighted reps and only starting to mix in significant amount of bw reps when competition time is getting closer.
This was my feeling too, but it was just a hunch. I don't really have enough knowledge or experience to say for sure that the program is bad. Maybe someone should get realbusto in here to take a look.
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07-13-2014 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
If it doesn't involve the back and biceps, why would it interfere? You think pull-ups draining on CNS and therefore if we do extra work we might not make GAINZ? No.

As long as you are not doing curls, deadlifts, abs, and back movements on off days you will be fine.
Abs!? All things IVe heard/read is that you can do as much core as you want, so you think doing dips is fine right, thatll be good enough, currently Ive been using 15 pound dumbbells on off days, curls, concentrated curls, and 4 shoulder exercises, theyre just 15lm db :/


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Maybe mix in some power. Like when (or if already) you're able to do 20 pullups, do some sets where you hold a dumbbell between your ankles (ankles crossed). Or if you have access to a seated pull-down machine, that would achieve the same thing.
I dont think I can do 20 right now, If I get home today and its not raining Ill do the test, if not tomorrow morning for sure.....

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Why did you move from your last program?
Think ive been making no real progress and found this program to increase reps, Ive been doing pullups, chiunps, dips, row, and leg raises for 4+ months

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Originally Posted by chinz
50 pull ups seems impossible to me at least with strict form. Finnish NR is 39 reps and it's done in <70kg weightclass. Although those reps have to each start from dead hang, idk if you're going for that.

Had a quick look at the program and it seems kinda weird that there's only bw reps. From what I've understand most people tend to train even to max rep pullup competitions mostly with weighted reps and only starting to mix in significant amount of bw reps when competition time is getting closer.
Ive been working on my form for a while, obviously not perfect but even if I only get 10 or w/e, in theory it wont matter, should be pretty hard, but it will be worth the effort + Im at the right place to take the challenge

worse case scenario I get to 30 :P, by then Ill probably be able to do some muscle ups, the flag who knows


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This was my feeling too, but it was just a hunch. I don't really have enough knowledge or experience to say for sure that the program is bad. Maybe someone should get realbusto in here to take a look.

that sounds good, the other reason I opened this thread was to get opinions from people with more experience than me
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07-14-2014 , 12:37 AM
i'm surprised you cant yet do a muscle up. You can way out rep me on chins, but i managed to work up to a set of two muscle ups, just by working on the technique.
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07-14-2014 , 11:37 AM
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i'm surprised you cant yet do a muscle up. You can way out rep me on chins, but i managed to work up to a set of two muscle ups, just by working on the technique.
thats cool, I havent been trying to them really, tried a couple of times and couldnt get over the bar, today the weather is awesome so will do the test in a bit
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07-14-2014 , 01:09 PM
Yo AIdan, which technique did you use btw? hope your doing fine dude

so just did the test manage to do 12, form was ok, but still need to get better.
took the before pic, weight is at 189.2.

Idk if getting to 50 is possible following this program, but its a good enough reason to get back into shape, the other reason is 2 or 3 times cardio (1hish/d) is painfully bad and now I would struggle to FINISH a 20k race. So I acknowledge that Im not at my peak, probably close to 50-60%, Im not gonna full my self.

One of the reasons why I stopped doing cardio like I was doing was because after training I was drained for the rest of the day, and that got in the way with poker, life, going out, my kids and being tired all day is really a pain in the ass. After that Ive struggled to get back into rhythm. SInce the program is kinda strict on rest days and stuff, Im gonna be able to go out and run, cycle or whatever Im in the mood that day, so by just trying Ill get things in motion, I do intend to give it my best and if I do that Ill be happy with w/e results I get.


The test says that If I do 12, I should start on the 4th cycle, but Im gonna start on 3rd cycle(9-11), as that is only gonna pull me back a week or 2, and that should help with the form.
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07-14-2014 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chinz
50 pull ups seems impossible to me at least with strict form.
I disagree. Back when I lifted weights (these days I'm a gurly man), I used to do 3 sets of weighted pullups. One day I was curious how many I could do without a weight, and I banged off 36. Full height on each (bar down to my chest). Had I kept strength training, or had I set a goal to get 50, I don't see how I wouldn't have reached it.

I gotta think gymnasts can do 50 no problem. It seems like they have 0 leg muscle which means less weight for their very strong upper body to lift for a pullup.

I don't think non-gymnasts should sacrifice lower body to reach 50 pullups but if OP has some bodyfat to shed, that would help. Might also help being a little short (5'7) like me.
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07-14-2014 , 01:17 PM
first cycle
http://gyazo.com/10f9d20814ab7c281c411ab4a8768a1a
day 1 will be wed 16
2 fri 18th
3 sun 20th
4 WED 23rd
5 fri 25th
6 sun 27th
next cycle

starts WED 30th
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07-14-2014 , 03:46 PM
before pic
Spoiler:


After the test did some core,

3x50 sec plank
3x20 side planks(each side)
3x20 one arm opposite leg up(each side)
stretching + sun salutation
tonight Im going to play basketball
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07-14-2014 , 05:34 PM
If you're gonna have a "before" pic, put one of your back and lats. You're doing about 10 pullups now; by the time you're doing 50, there ought to be a noticeable change on your upper back.
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07-14-2014 , 06:26 PM
will do, lats from the back or the front?
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07-14-2014 , 08:19 PM
Back. I said "back and lats" which was redundant. Lats are on the middle back in like a butterfly shape. (Or do they also extend to the front? I figure they extend to the side somewhere.)

Dumbbell/seated rows emphasize muscles above that (rhomboids and maybe other stuff). I'd incorporate those as part of your program, they probably help with pullups.

Edit: my 2000th post is asking a man to show me his muscles.
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07-15-2014 , 01:04 AM
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Yo AIdan, which technique did you use btw? hope your doing fine dude
Here are some quotes from my log (starts around post 800):

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Yessir, Beast Skills has excellent tutorials on all sorts of bodyweight stuff, including handstands and muscle ups.
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Also gymnasticsWOD has some useful progressions.

The result:

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Muscle ups:

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07-15-2014 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by heehaww
Back. I said "back and lats" which was redundant. Lats are on the middle back in like a butterfly shape. (Or do they also extend to the front? I figure they extend to the side somewhere.)

Dumbbell/seated rows emphasize muscles above that (rhomboids and maybe other stuff). I'd incorporate those as part of your program, they probably help with pullups.

Edit: my 2000th post is asking a man to show me his muscles.
lol, if its any consolation is the lack of muscles :P

thx for the tips, Ive also been doing rowing* hanging from the parallels, but maybe inclined butterflies, but will definitely read on it (Y)

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Here are some quotes from my log (starts around post 800):





Also gymnasticsWOD has some useful progressions.

The result:
NICE, its that explosive motion of going over the bar that I cant do, tyty
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07-15-2014 , 10:49 AM
Back
Spoiler:
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07-15-2014 , 07:09 PM
With a false grip, practice explosive pulls with some kip where you are trying to pull the bar down in front of you (this is key, you dont want to pull yourself to the bar). Do some of these at the start of each session when you are fresh and you'll get there in no time.
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07-16-2014 , 06:39 PM
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With a false grip, practice explosive pulls with some kip where you are trying to pull the bar down in front of you (this is key, you dont want to pull yourself to the bar). Do some of these at the start of each session when you are fresh and you'll get there in no time.
pulling up to the front seems logical, will try it! tyty

yesterday did 15k mtb. last 7.5 going up, today ran 9km in a "new" route, the trails where very muddy cause last 4.5 where through all mountain.

1st day of the program was easy, nothing worth noting as it was just a few reps and didnt even brake a sweat

set 1 3
set 2 5
set 3 3
set 4 3
set 5 Max (Min 5) did 10
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07-18-2014 , 12:50 PM
day 2 was ok

set 1 4
set 2 6
set 3 4
set 4 4
set 5 Max (Min 6) did 9 :/

sun salutation to start + core at the end
also did the warm up thats in the program, takes 12min so its not bad, plus I get to do some extra ab work andmostly working on my joints, which I think is necessary and awesome

Got someone to come and work on my spinning bike, so that should help with cardio, especially when its raining and at nights. Im sure when i was at my peak I was doing at least 1sesh a week sometimes 2 of spinning btw.
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