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View Poll Results: Who wins??

Amanda Nunes (Leave blank to vote for Shevchenko)

11 50.00%

Yoel Romero (Leave blank to vote for Whittaker)

13 59.09%

Robbie Lawler (Leave blank to vote for Cerrone)

11 50.00%

Fabricio Werdum (Leave blank to vote for Overeem)

14 63.64%

Chris Weidman (Leave blank to vote for Gastelum)

9 40.91%

Daniel Cormier On Points

3 13.64%

Daniel Cormier Inside The Distance

2 9.09%

Jon Jones On Points

12 54.55%

Jon Jones Inside The Distance

1 4.55%

Daniel Cormier & Jon Jones do not fight at UFC 214

5 22.73%

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07-15-2017 , 09:09 AM

#176

RichGangi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

This is great.

07-15-2017 , 09:42 AM

#177

Thug Bubbles

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I can take those animals in the outside world seriously considering Conor's chances, but not here. Not here.

Johnny,

Please add a trigger warning to all your future posts about Conor/Mayweather.

07-15-2017 , 11:21 AM

#178

Johnny Truant

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I sincerely apologize. The only way I can navigate this ****ed up world these days is to dig deep, very very deep, to find any semblance of rational proof that somehow shows I am incorrect in my calculations of just how absurd it all is. This fight is just one small example of it.

Forgive me.

07-15-2017 , 12:59 PM

#179

rubbrband

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Conor is most likely going to get wrecked by Floyd.

The thing is, if you were going to design a fighter to beat Floyd, Conor holds a lot of the natural atributes you would be looking for.

A rangy left hander with top notch power, accuracy and timing.

I just don't think you can catch up with the best boxer in the world in six months.

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07-15-2017 , 01:02 PM

#180

rubbrband

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Conor's ability to judge the range before throwing a single punch is like no fighter I've ever seen. It makes him terrifyingly dangerous in the 1st serveral exchanges of the fight.

I still think he's going to lose but people who say he has no chance are fooling themselves.

Then there's the issue with Floyd and taxes. I by no means think Floyd is broke, but he has a lot of mouths to feed. Floyd always fights from a position of strength and he still has the upper hand but he has to make this fight work even if he's not 100% at 40yo

07-15-2017 , 01:10 PM

#181

rubbrband

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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK

He fought Nate Diaz, gassed after eight minutes and got KOed with punches. Then he had ten weeks putting together the most expensive camp in MMA history to train just for Nate Diaz, gassed after eight minutes, almost got KOed by Nate Diaz and escaped with a draw.

Some genius.

His 1st fight with Nate he was training for RDA. Cardio shouldn't be a focus vs RDA.

For the 2nd fight, everyone knows the key to beating the Diaz bros is leg kicks, but you can't build up the technique and armor to chop someone down in a week. Conor came back with a plan and the propper cardio. At the end of the fight they were both gassed.

07-15-2017 , 01:33 PM

#182

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i think conor will win multiple rounds simply due to the fact that the crowd is going to pop for him big time every time he throws a flurry. boxing is a lot harder to judge and i haven't seen any evidence that boxing judges are any more competent than MMA judges.

de la hoya got a split decision by moving forward and throwing some big flurries that mostly hit glove, arm, and shoulder, but the crowd went crazy. if conor lands ANYTHING the crowd is gonna go nuts! maybe it will sway the judges.

07-15-2017 , 02:26 PM

#183

PartyGirlUK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rubbrband

Conor's ability to judge the range before throwing a single punch is like no fighter I've ever seen.

Surprised you've never seen a professional boxing match. I think you'd enjoy the sport and recommend starting with Vasquez-Marquez I, II & III & Pacquiao-Marquez I, II & IV.

07-15-2017 , 02:33 PM

#184

El Diablo

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Rubbr,

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubbrband

Then there's the issue with Floyd and taxes. I by no means think Floyd is broke, but he has a lot of mouths to feed. Floyd always fights from a position of strength and he still has the upper hand but he has to make this fight work even if he's not 100% at 40yo

What do you mean by that?

I'd guess the best financial outcome for Floyd is prob a close back and forth good fight and controversial Conor split decision. Or maybe a "fluke" quick KO by Conor.

07-15-2017 , 02:55 PM

#185

cwar

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You're not really supposed to analyze this fight, you're supposed to hope that a confluence of variables break for Conor (age, early rush, style, fluke punch, crowd) and that he somehow wins and becomes the biggest spectacle we've ever seen.

Can you imagine the **** talk if he pulled it off? The crossover fights having boxers fight with MMA gloves or kickboxing rules. Pure madness.

07-15-2017 , 03:03 PM

#186

PartyGirlUK

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Originally Posted by El Diablo

Rubbr,

What do you mean by that?

I'd guess the best financial outcome for Floyd is prob a close back and forth good fight and controversial Conor split decision. Or maybe a "fluke" quick KO by Conor.

If Mayweather KOs Conor in a few rounds there is always the MMA rematch. Sounds ridiculous but less so now than the thought one year ago of these guys facing off in boxing. And if Mayweather wants to fight on it might make sense to take a guaranteed defeat in MMA rather than less money for a 50/50 fight v. Canelo/Thurman/Spence where he might lose his boxing 0.

07-15-2017 , 03:16 PM

#187

Johnny Truant

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Since the only thing that matters is unbridled greed and accumulation of wealth beyond reason, the best outcome is clearly a controversial end of some type and a rematch. MW being in trouble at some point and a ref breaking it up. Disqualification of some sort. Obvious bad judging or a close enough decision that everyone can continue to say their favorite won.

Other than that it's one and done. Mayweather ever entering the cage is sillier than this freak show. If that happens they really will have burned down both sports imo.

07-15-2017 , 03:17 PM

#188

augie_

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leslie smith is one of my favorite fighters but i think she's gonna get wrecked tomorrow. i know nothing about her opponent. but...

SHE SMILED!

07-15-2017 , 03:21 PM

#189

augie_

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also the way she has her arm out looks weak to me. if she had confidence, she would be standing right on the border and have her arm extending into amanda's territory. this posture looks like "stay away from me"

07-15-2017 , 05:48 PM

#190

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Originally Posted by El Diablo

Floyd is usually in a position where he controls all the variables who, what, when, and how. Now that he needs the money he has to fight 100% or not. He also usually has massive clout in Vegas over the venue. He's retiring and fighting the new and future King of Vegas who combined with the UFC has all the clout with the commission/venue.

Cliffs: Floyd doesn't have the home field advantage he normally has

07-15-2017 , 07:12 PM

#191

El Diablo

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Rubbr,

What did you mean by "he has to make this fight work" ?

07-15-2017 , 09:06 PM

#192

rubbrband

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I mean he's fighting because he needs to pay the IRS for the money he made vs Manny. He's obviously taking the fight that poses the least risk, but how much has father time caught up with him? Would he risk that 0 if he didn't owe the irs? This is a 40yo fighter that relies on speed and reflexes.

07-15-2017 , 09:15 PM

#193

Kirbynator

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the fact that he """"" retired """""" and is now 40 is a big part of why the odds are this off reality

07-15-2017 , 10:00 PM

#194

PartyGirlUK

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Sweet HBO card starting now, three good fights, main event quite likely to be a FOTY contender.

07-15-2017 , 10:24 PM

#195

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Other than PGUK most of you seem to have lost your ****ing minds. Carry on... in SE preferably.

07-15-2017 , 10:41 PM

#196

DodgerIrish

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I don't know what that means, the vast bulk of us assume Floyd is going to win.

07-15-2017 , 10:53 PM

#197

Kirbynator

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everlastrr hasnt been good at posting for the past 9 years and a half

07-15-2017 , 11:27 PM

#198

DodgerIrish

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It's like the guy who lol'd at me for spitballing Conor has a ~3% chance and responded that actually, Conor only has a very small chance.

People just strawman left and right.

07-16-2017 , 12:54 AM

#199

Johnny Truant

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I mean please tell me there is nobody here who thinks floyds chance in the cage isn't far, far less than the almost nonexistent chance Conor has in the ring?

Also, are people loading up on this fight at these odds?