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08-09-2017 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JB91

I'd be happy if RDA gets a title shot if he beats Magny next month.
+1

Right now the odds:

RDA ( odds: -200) [risk 1.00 win .50]
Magny (odds: +160) [risk 1.00 win 1.6]

Reach:
RDA: 70'
Magny reach: 80'

10inch is big reach advantage, but nick diaz is 76' and rda beat the brakes off him. think i like magny slightly at this price. magny with wins over gastleum, lombard and hendricks in his last 4 fights. what you think about this one swoop?
08-09-2017 , 11:06 AM
Quite the incentive for US folks to pirate, imo:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/8...ommentary-team

I particularly liked this quote from Dan:

Quote:
As much as like Brendan Schaub, I’ll admit that I thought a lot of the stuff he was saying was hot air. There were a lot of superlatives and celebration. There was not a great deal of substance to his analysis.
Yeti,

Nah, you're no mark. Paulie is almost certainly telling the truth. I just refuse to believe anything I read/hear about Conor's boxing until I see him in the ring for an actual fight.

Last edited by Thug Bubbles; 08-09-2017 at 11:12 AM.
08-09-2017 , 11:38 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if a stud decathlete spent six months training for 100m could beat the world's 25th best 100m sprinter who hadn't trained in six months. Same is true of McGregor/Malignaggi.

Anyone who practiced something to a high level knows how rusty they are after a few months of. I was always pretty bad at poker when coming off a layoff, it took a few sessions to get back in the groove. Federer took a couple of months off after the Australian open and lost to 39 year old Tommy Haas on his return. Haas hadn't won a match at a slam in two years and was ranked around world no. 300. A month later Federer won Wimbledon without losing a set. Floyd Mayweather, coming off a layoff, got beat up in sparring by Paul Spadafora.
08-12-2017 , 01:34 AM
08-12-2017 , 01:48 AM
Obviously carefully picked. But good enough to kill paulie's claim of a pushdown and make him more furious
08-12-2017 , 05:51 AM
paulie is tweeting a bunch. The ref waves it off as a slip not a knockdown, and the huge shot is in the 12th when paulie was completely gassed
08-12-2017 , 06:05 AM


Paulie clip is great promotion.
08-12-2017 , 07:33 AM
That guy is a tool and he ll manage to lose his showtime gig
08-12-2017 , 01:53 PM
x-posting from SE bc hasn't been itt.

08-12-2017 , 06:41 PM
that's pretty great!
08-13-2017 , 08:00 AM
That must be the guy he's flying out to Vegas to watch the fight, according to Ariel's interview.
08-13-2017 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Wouldn't surprise me if a stud decathlete spent six months training for 100m could beat the world's 25th best 100m sprinter who hadn't trained in six months. Same is true of McGregor/Malignaggi
I was about to say that the sprinter could take years off but I looked it up and a decathalete ran a 10.15 according to Wikipedia.
08-14-2017 , 10:55 AM
The problem with the decathlete example is that the 100m practice is the same as what a normal 100m specialist would run.

MMAists aren't practicing boxing and any meaningful way. Their strikes are different, their stance is different, their distance is different.

Conor is a high level athlete that can undoubtedly throw a punch, so he's further along than a rank amateur, but the finer points of boxing are all new to him, and his opponent is a top 20 boxer OAT
08-14-2017 , 05:23 PM
I have a couple of questions about the fight

1. How far out of his prime is Floyd?
2. How long did Conor train professionally with a ragtag bunch of second and third rate coaches, and training partners before dominating MMA?
3. When is the last time Floyd fought someone who was in their prime physical condition?
4. How much will the 10 count hurt Conor's chances of a KO?
5. When is the last time Floyd fought someone who was even close to eclipsing his star power?
6. When is the last time Floyd didn't have 100% control over the event?
08-14-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
I have a couple of questions about the fight

1. How far out of his prime is Floyd?
Some would say he's not the fighter he was 5 years ago, hell he's not even the fighter he was 2 years ago.

The honest answer would be that there are two Floyds. There's Pretty Boy Floyd who got robbed at the olympics and was an aggressive, vicious boxer and then there's Floyd "Money" Mayweather who started to show up after that Baldomir fight once he'd royally ****ed up his hands who fought more defensively and strategically.

That's an oversimplification but the Baldomir fight was in 2006, when Floyd was 29.

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2. How long did Conor train professionally with a ragtag bunch of second and third rate coaches, and training partners before dominating MMA?
No clue

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3. When is the last time Floyd fought someone who was in their prime physical condition?
His last fight was against Andre Berto when AB was 31, so that's probably close. If you want someone sub-30, although that's just an arbitrary line, you could say Ricky Hatton when Hatton was 29

Berto today beats Conor 12-0 if the fight goes the distance fyi.

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4. How much will the 10 count hurt Conor's chances of a KO?
Won't matter if he can't hit Floyd clean, but it obviously takes away a flash KD and quick stoppage.

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5. When is the last time Floyd fought someone who was even close to eclipsing his star power?
Probably in May of 2015 when he fought The Honorable Manny Pacquiao, but even then Floyd was the bigger star.

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6. When is the last time Floyd didn't have 100% control over the event?
2007, when he fought as the B-Side against the then-most popular boxer in the world, Oscar De La Hoya.
08-14-2017 , 08:56 PM
Berto would hospitalise McGregor.
08-14-2017 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
His last fight was against Andre Berto when AB was 31, so that's probably close. If you want someone sub-30, although that's just an arbitrary line, you could say Ricky Hatton when Hatton was 29
I assume the question is actually "when was the last time he fought somebody not on the decline", in which case i would say Canelo and Maidana were both in prime physical condition, although prob not at the peak of their boxing skills (def for Canelo).
08-16-2017 , 08:16 AM
sportsbet in australia is now -400 floyd, max bet $50k. their competitor (who historically has worse odds) has crept from -666 to -454 and i imagine they may well follow to -400.

at what point does floyd start to shorten, if ever? the amount of $ coming in on conor must be absolutely insane.
08-16-2017 , 08:31 AM
probably never. money will keep coming in on conor on fight night imo, everyone betting with their heart.

i think the smart money will have a great chance to lose it all when the sharps come in with may at the last second. however, some books will probably take a MASSIVE hit if conor wins. especially those with small betting limits as the unwashed masses are with conor.
08-16-2017 , 02:34 PM
change to 8oz gloves approved by commission.
08-16-2017 , 03:09 PM
Means mostly nothing, but it benefits Floyd more than Conor, imo.

Last edited by Thug Bubbles; 08-16-2017 at 03:15 PM.
08-16-2017 , 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thug Bubbles
Means mostly nothing, but it benefits Floyd more than Conor, imo.


Think it gives a little more chance of a Conor ko
08-16-2017 , 03:51 PM
Yes, but that minuscule improvement is smaller than the slightly less minuscule improvement Floyd gets with hand-speed, as well as his own power bump. It's really just a marketing gimmick. Almost all of Floyd's fights were with 8oz gloves, and he's dealt with heavier hitters than Conor.
08-17-2017 , 01:04 PM
Garbrandt Vs. Dillashaw at MSG confirmed
Machida vs Brunson in Oct
08-17-2017 , 01:37 PM
Machida/Brunson is great.

      
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