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01-17-2008, 01:53 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: raw denim
Manque, it goes well with street wear, obviously. both in the super casual sense (tshirt, hoodie, sneakers) and the slightly more refined sense (casual dress shirts, casual boots, cardigans/sweaters, etc.)
Dressing up denim more than this has mixed results. I've seen people that do it incredibly well and look modern and smart, and others that try it (like me) that look like they're trying too hard. The denim should be dark with minimal fading, and having a handsome pair of more casual dress shoes or boots helps a ton -- suede brogues, chelsea boots, etc. There are some people over on StyleForum who absolutely kill in the "What Are You Wearing Today" threads because their silhouettes are great and they know how to mix high and low: sharp jacket with a colorful scarf, or a sweater with interesting details, etc. Which reminds me that I desperately need to start working on my sport coat wardrobe
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01-17-2008, 02:07 AM
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#47
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: raw denim
snorer, there are some relaxed fit raw denim jeans you should be able to find at Denim Bar. If all you want is something comfortable to wear, stick to relaxed stuff to bum around in. It'd still fade and whisker, but most of the fading is caused by friction.
That being said, part of what drives the raw denim trend is wanting to have stylish cuts that fit well. Jeans that don't fit on your hips are going to look bad because they sag and won't look right in the seat/crotch, etc. Relaxed fit through the thighs and legs makes your silhouette look goofy. There's a tradeoff between comfort and style sometimes, but that being said, my APC NS jeans are very, very comfortable after they've been broken in. They fit me perfect. If you have some money to blow, give it a shot. H&M makes a cheap raw jean if you want to test the waters first.
Edit: BTW just wanted to drop that Revolve has a 30% first time customer discount if you email them about it.
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01-17-2008, 03:08 AM
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#48
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 59
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by ghostbeef
5 years is hopeful, probably closer to 3, depending on the weight. I have a pair of Nudies (RegRalf) that i've worn pretty much every day for the last 18 months, washed once. There are a lot of holes starting in the wear points (pocket corners, knees, crotch). The wear lines are amazing though. Wearing anything else just feels weird now.
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WTF? Gross!
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01-17-2008, 03:19 AM
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#49
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 59
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by Manque
What do you generally wear with raw denim? Boots? Hoodies? Jackets?
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Hopefully one of those smelly trees.
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01-17-2008, 03:20 AM
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#50
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See my coaching listing
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: @SlowHabit
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by skunkworks
If Febreze can get bong water smell out of carpet, it can get nutrot out of raw denim.
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Do you use Febreze to keep your jeans clean? If not, what do you use to clean your jeans?
I am curious because I have one premium jean and I want to keep it away from the washer as much as possible.
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01-17-2008, 03:57 AM
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#51
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Re: raw denim
Hang your jeans and air them out after you wear them so that the funk doesn't settle in. You can lightly spritz Febreze or throw a Bounce dryer sheet in them occasionally. That should keep you good for months.
If your jeans have to be washed and you want to preserve the color/wash as much as possible, flip them inside out. Fill up your tub with water and wash by hand with Woolite dark. Rinse once, hang to dry. (If your jeans are raw, lay them flat on a towel first before hanging to dry so that as little dye as possible runs off.) If you want to use a machine, use the super delicate cycle. Do not throw your jeans in the dryer.
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01-17-2008, 04:57 AM
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#52
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: raw denim
lol - you guys are retarded. i have lots of jeans - some "raw denim" some just "premium" brands. i wash them all the time.
nothing changes.
wash your clothes.
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01-17-2008, 06:11 AM
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#53
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parts Unknown
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Re: raw denim
skunk and others,
You guys do realize that even if you aren't ****ting and pissing yourself or spilling food on your jeans that if you venture into the "world" or "outside" that things actually STILL GET F'ING DIRTY!?
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01-17-2008, 09:08 AM
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#54
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: looking for owls
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
skunk and others,
You guys do realize that even if you aren't ****ting and pissing yourself or spilling food on your jeans that if you venture into the "world" or "outside" that things actually STILL GET F'ING DIRTY!?
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i haven't washed my jeans for 3 months. before that, i didnt wash them for 6 months. If i hadnt just told you that, you wouldnt be able to tell by looking at or smelling them. Denim is supposed to be a tough fabric. A little history:
Denim pants were invented during the California gold rush. The workers needed a heavy duty, durable pant to sift for gold in all day. Denim is not naturally blue, and Indigo dye was chosen for the early denim simply because it was a cheap colour. They didn't know anything about dye setting, sanforization, resin, or any of the other technologies used to stain fabrics today. They just took some denim, dipped it in a big vat of cheap indigo, and they had pants. The Cali gold miners obviously weren't showering or washing their clothes very often, and wore the same pair of pants pretty much continuously for long time stretches. These were the first 'raw' jeans.
cliffs notes: real men dont wash their pants
fwiw, there are guys on superfuture who are doing monthly washes and getting good results, although this definitely runs against the grain.
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01-17-2008, 09:09 AM
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#55
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: looking for owls
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by SlowHabit
Do you use Febreze to keep your jeans clean? If not, what do you use to clean your jeans?
I am curious because I have one premium jean and I want to keep it away from the washer as much as possible.
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put them in the freezer for a bit, will remove odors.
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01-17-2008, 09:52 AM
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#56
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,622
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Re: raw denim
it's overrated. Do you wash your suit every time you wear it? Dress shirts? If you wear underwear and have some concept of how to eat/drink without getting it on yourself you don't need to wash jeans every time you wear them. If I get something on my jeans or they smell I wash them, I find that this happens about once every 6 months.
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01-17-2008, 10:21 AM
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#57
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Alphabet City, NYC
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by AZK
it's overrated. Do you wash your suit every time you wear it? Dress shirts? If you wear underwear and have some concept of how to eat/drink without getting it on yourself you don't need to wash jeans every time you wear them. If I get something on my jeans or they smell I wash them, I find that this happens about once every 6 months.
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i have stinky balls so it's like every month for me but yeah, anyone who washes a pair of jeans after less than a week is nuts. it takes that long just to get them broken back in.
*brokeback mountain gay joke goes here*
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01-17-2008, 11:41 AM
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#58
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: raw denim
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Originally Posted by lapoker17
lol - you guys are retarded. i have lots of jeans - some "raw denim" some just "premium" brands. i wash them all the time.
nothing changes.
wash your clothes.
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lmao.
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01-17-2008, 12:39 PM
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#59
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veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hopelessly putting money in the pot
Posts: 2,365
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Re: raw denim
Seeing as I got about half my clothes stolen last week (last time I ****ing use a laundry delivery service) I'm in the market for some new clothes and these jeans are appealing. My biggest problem in shopping for pants in general is the fact that my legs are about 26" in circumference each (spent the majority of my youth as an FIS alpine ski racer). Can anyone recommend a pair that fit looser in the thigh? Or is this something I'm going to have to seek out and try on?
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01-17-2008, 12:48 PM
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#60
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journeyman
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 236
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Re: raw denim
I'm in the boat of not understanding the not washing them thing. I hopped over to StyleForum and took a look at some of the dudes wearing their one-years with 2 washes, and it seriously looked like they had been rolling around in dirt. There were some good looking wear on some of the pics of the raw denim on SF, but then someone would post a pic that had like oil and grease stains all over them from work and everyone was tearing up at how "beautiful" they are. WTF?
Is this the kind of stuff you guys are talking about? I'm definitely on El D's side either way
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