im with the get new friends group.

the stuff alot of my female friends have done is both hilarious and terrible, and in my circle of friends at least, it gets laughs not shame, exact same as for the guys. like i cant imagine anything they could do that would follow them round for years that wouldnt also follow them around as a guy.

i know that i only really know tolerant people, but still . . .

That is a very unrealistic view of the world. I've lived in quite a few different cities and within each city I have multiple sub-groups of friends ranging from strippers / criminals to very successful professionals and this is a constant. People keep saying friends which leads me to believe you might be interpreting it as the core friends when what is actually meant is the scene of people who just all know each other. If you are even remotely social then you can connect yourself to anyone else who is even remotely social by at most three degrees of separation and usually much less. These are not necessarily friends but they are people who you know and who know you. The group of people is what keeps a female's history always there ready to embarrass her decades later because she did something which in reality no one should give a **** about but they do because it allows them to do what people love to do which is gossip and pull down people who they view as having something undeserved.

Hrm.

Thanks for the replies, Henry and PR.

Hi. I have a question for DonkBluffer.
I'm thinking about signing in the 30/30 club. Since you are (if I didn't misunderstood you) a graduate of it, I would like to have your impressions about it (and what it has become, since it may have change a little).
Also, are the coaches truly following students (I mean answering questions, for example) ?
So in one sentence : Is it worth it ? (or rather, For which type of people do you think it is worth ?).

Regards

This is such an interesting post, I'm going to read it from page 1 to 109. Both sides are compelling, although I do see a lot of prejudice.

I've skimmed the past few pages and the tone/way of conversing of most of the people supporting PUA is eerily similar to the "millionaires" here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RayBt...next=1&index=9

It's a good series, watch all the 5 parts, I would be surprised if people did not see the connection.

Sorry for responding so late! You can't receive PMs apparently, so I'll reply here.

In short I think you should join. You get plenty of attention from coaches. You ask for which type of people it's worth it. It's worth it for men that are prepared to get off their ass and start getting out of their comfort zone and actually work at being better with women, in stead of listening to stuff on your computer. I actually was not one of those men back then, because I didnt do my approaches and didnt finish the program. But a few months after my experiences with Brad P (I also did a bootcamp with him) and the 30/30 club I had many breakthroughs.

Double standard for men versus women is humanity's genetic response to the problem of paternity confidence. If you want to get rid of it, you'll have to breed it out.

What? I didn't know this! All this time I've been watching my actions like big brother's got a monitoring device on me. I'll be sure to use this newfound knowledge this weekend, in Vegas!

Thank you!