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Old 07-10-2012, 11:14 AM   #3076
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is that plug in just as good as photoshop and matix? I'm really loving the new lightroom
no, not as good.

for 'HDR' and similar stacking, photomatix > PS >>> lightroom
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:14 AM   #3077
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+1 to awesome sunset pic, Syous. Really great color and shadows
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:37 AM   #3078
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I'm finally getting around to working on some of my Death Valley pics from Feb. They're still pretty rough - I'll need to do another pass if I want to print them. But I really like the creative/intuitive aspect of the clone-painting technique vs. standard layer masks - which I find more clunky and frustrating.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #3079
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have been hoping for some better lightning this summer, this was the other day

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Old 07-10-2012, 02:29 PM   #3080
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have u been PSing? Why does this look so damn crisp, clear, and polished?
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:38 PM   #3081
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Yeah decent amount of PS-ing. I did one version for the sky and one for the dirt, stream and grass - then put some light on the mountains to tie them together.

The biggest weird thing going on here is that I shot the original at 7200 color temp (some custom white balance - I forget what it was) - which is what gives the foreground that golden tint. But then for the sky I dialed it back to 6000 or so in Camera RAW. 7200 gave the sky a bronze look that didn't look natural at all. I think it makes an interesting contrast - but I may go back and do the water only at 6000 so that it matches the sky better.

I also need to get a lot better at handling edges. I basically just mushed over the edge between the mountains and land - which is where I sticthed the two pics together. If I tried to print it it would look like crap. Also there's some blue halo stuff going on at the top of the mountains on the left that I'd like to fix.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:57 PM   #3082
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god, seeing a photo like that makes me feel like I need to learn PS...but it seems like so much work
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:59 PM   #3083
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It is - but you can still be fairly productive w/o knowing a whole lot. I took a beginning Photoshop class and have had some tutorial sessions with people who know a lot more than me.

Lightroom may be a better option if you don't want to learn photoshop. I think you can do layer masks in lightroom (where you change say the sky or foreground only).
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:19 PM   #3084
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Damn suzzer. Very impressive. Beautiful pics
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:49 AM   #3085
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Trying to get better a taking photos of people. I'd like some critical feedback, if possible.

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Old 07-16-2012, 07:18 PM   #3086
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Potaits aren't really my thing, but since nobody ese has stepped in, I'll offer this.

First pic:

Nice shallow depth of field (f/1.8 or f/2?). Good focus on the eye. The ear is nicely out of focus. Good separation from background. Good exposure/lighting.

What's with the kid's right eye? Is he just winking, or does he have an empty eye socket? The L-R positioning and cropping seems to be arbitrary unless you actually want this picture to be about the mystery of his unseen eye. The wrinkles about that eye impart a sense of anger.

If you don't want this picture to be about that eye, adjust your left-side cropping in either direction. If he wasn't winking and had a normal right eye, I'd suggest that the crop should be moved to the left just a bit (out of current frame*) because the current crop cuts a little bit off the right side of his nose. The idea is to avoid amputating body part at arbitrary locations, especially close to their natural ends. If you are going to amputate, make it clear that it isn't just a sloppy job of framing that just missed. Bottom crop is good. Top and right crops can be somewhat arbitrary, dictated by frame ratios and element placement. Current frame is almost 3:2.

Since the wink / empty socket distracts, for this shot I'd suggest moving the left crop a bit to the right, so as to slice through his nostril and avoid almost all of his right eye. The most important element of the picture is his left eye. The second most important element is his nose. Try to position the eye in a balanced spot, like 1/3 in from top and left edges, or at the golden ratio intersection. Keep the bottom of the frame where it is, so you get the bottom of the nose. Do this positioning in post-processing. You shouldn't be overly precsise about framing when taking the shot.

*When taking pictures of people, frame loosely, and then crop in post. This allows you to play around with various options for copping your shot.

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What's the story here? If this shot is exactly as you wanted it, you're going to have to explain it to me.

The focus seems to be on the front of the hand (not even the ring is in focus). Unless this was totally deliberate, I'd guess this was a result of having the camera set to focus on closest object. Depending on what you are trying to say with this picture, the focus should be on the woman's right eye or on the ring, and there should be more DOF. IOW, I think you used the wrong aperture and didn't select your focus point or method well.

There's just too much stuff out of focus, (with the front of the hand being just in focus) for this to be a good picture. Either put everything out of focus, or (better) give us some element to focus on.

Perhaps in part because of the focus problem, the face seems washed out. This could be because you used matrix metering, and the dark furniture caused an increased exposure. For a shot with high contrast between intended subject and surrounding elements, spot meter your intended focus point.

I have no problem with the pose, but be aware that if you try to get both her face and the ring in focus by decreasing aperture, you might pull too much detail out of the background. The thing to try for having both in focus, might be to focus on the eye, then manually adjust focus to be on the ring, and then readjust focus back about half way. Then take a few shots to bracket DOF.

I'm not sure how good this would look with the face in focus and the ring out of focus.

I think there is a bit too much dead space on the right. Perhaps change the aspect ratio from 3:2 to 7:5.

If you are going to have the ring in focus and the face out of focus, I think you have to lose the right-hand half of the frame: shoot vertically.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:29 PM   #3087
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One more thing. This was taken from too close, IMO. Nose is too large compared to ears and even eyes. I would have preferred the same thing taken from at least twice the distance, probably three or more times, therefore needing at least twice or three or more times the focal length to frame the same. This is less of a concern if the eye mystery ref'd above is intended, in which case the closer perspective works.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:31 PM   #3088
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Thank you for the detailed input.

For the first picture he just wanted me to take a closeup photo of his eye and he closed the other eye. How does this crop look?


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For the second one, I took 2 versions. Here's the other one:


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Old 07-17-2012, 01:06 PM   #3089
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Thank you for the detailed input.

For the first picture he just wanted me to take a closeup photo of his eye and he closed the other eye. How does this crop look?


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That makes it a whole new picture. You have cropped past the centre of the nose and cropped off the nose's bottom, and taken off a bit of the bottom of the ear. It is now definitely a picture of his eye. There aren't any other identifiable elements. The positioning of the eye in the frame is a little too close to the middle vertically and too close the the left edge horizontally to be conventional. Where you have it tends to make it feel overweighted to the left, but in this case I think it works. I like it. I played around with a couple of crops that used this concept but I couldn't come up with anything better than yours.

A couple more conventional crops that preserve the nose and ear as elements of the photo (the original concept):

This one keeps your original aspect ratio. The eye is 1/3 of the way in from the top and left edges.


This one uses a 4:3 aspect ratio. The eye is at the top left intersection of a Golden Ratio grid.


These are offered as possible improvments of the original version, but can't really compare to your new interpretation.

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The face is in focus in this one, so it balances the large brown blur well. Exposure looks better. The light catches her face, but shades her neck - which is good in this case.

In the previous version, the hand was an artistic element of the composition; here it is more of a distraction (fingers pointing at an angle toward the camera rarely look good) although the hand does give a sense of action as if the woman is in the midst of a conversation. Keeping it out of focus was the best you could do.

There is a lot of balance in this photo, which is relaxing and friendly. The woman's face is in the top two-thirds, her blurred hand in the bottom third. Focussed subject on light background on left, dark blurred background on right. Since it is a balance of opposites, it imparts a sense of duality, so it reinforces the sense of a conversation implied by the pose.

The vertical lines in the centre look tilted. This might add to the sense of dynamism, or might just make the photo look tilted. Experiment with rotating the photo so the lines are vertical.

I presume these were more candids than posed.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:11 PM   #3090
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Is this a decent camera for someone who has never owned a camera in their life before?! I just need it for high res vacation photos and that type of thing. Size is not a big deal at all. If not, any recommendations for a camera in the <$350 range? Thanks guys.

http://snapsort.com/cameras/Fujifilm/HS20#appearance
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