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Old 12-29-2011, 02:20 PM   #2551
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Hey NewSkol, nice to see you survived the storm and back on 2+2

Nice pictures btw. Would like some more water and less sky in some of those and some tighter ones like the second picture. The horizon is not straight in some of the pictures.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:49 PM   #2552
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Hey NewSkol, nice to see you survived the storm and back on 2+2

Nice pictures btw. Would like some more water and less sky in some of those and some tighter ones like the second picture. The horizon is not straight in some of the pictures.
Hey there! Nice to hear from you and thanks for the suggestions. Yeah, I should've checked the horizon a little more carefully on them, however the tilt on the second picture is deliberate in order to introduce more chaos into the frame. If it adds or takes from the picture, is not for me to decide though but for the viewer.

Also, thanks for the more water, less sky comment. I think it will really help me in the future. Now that you mentioned it, I see it and it burns my eye

Do you do a lot of photography?
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:26 PM   #2553
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This is your biggest problem I think. You know full well the advantages of shooting on a tripod vs shooting handheld, so stop being lazy and bust out the damn tripod!!
Yeah there is definitely some laziness aspect. But also there's also a certain rhythm to hand-held that seems to help inspire me creatively. Maybe my calling is more of a travel photographer.

When I try to set up the shot through a tripod, the composition turns from an artistic expression where I just kind of feel it in the moment as I take the shot--into a mechanical exercise where I'm nudging the camera back and forth and starting to doubt my original vision. Also my tripod is about a foot lower than my head, which makes it a little uncomfortable and changes the scene obviously from what I had envisioned while standing there.

It might be one of those things like pool where if you learn to play in a bar, you're always going to play better on a few beers (unless you retrain yourself). I definitely need to retrain myself to get more comfortable with a tripod. Our tour guide said he hates using his as well and only uses it when he needs to, which made me feel a little better.

I'm definitely going to get a non-back-packing tripod that comes up to eye-level and is easy to set up. That should help me a lot.

I have a similar issue with wide angle - where I can't just scan around and see the shot I want. I have to imagine it in my head. This was my first trip with a wide angle and I definitely had some challenges composing good shots--especially with fields of flowers, which you'd think would be easy but I found really challenging to get a good composition. We were at Three Jacks in the middle of a multi-acre field of crazy purple wild flowers and other colors. It's by far the most amazing wildflower display I've ever seen and I really struggled to find any great shots.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:48 PM   #2554
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http://www.latimes.com/features/home...4854.htmlstory

The interactive panorama thing on this (in full screen mode) is amazing - especially if you have a 30" monitor.

I can see a day when I can virtually be at a party through this kind of technology - while a hologram of me interacts with the live people at the party.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:18 AM   #2555
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Also, thanks for the more water, less sky comment. I think it will really help me in the future. Now that you mentioned it, I see it and it burns my eye

Do you do a lot of photography?
Nice blue sky with fluffy coulds, by all means include the sky. But when it's overcast it usually just turns out as a white bright area imo.

Dull overcast makes the light good for shooting stuff like flowers etc because the light is much softer with less hard shadows.

Yes I try and shoot some pictures when I can
Here's a few I shot a while back http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2402
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:22 AM   #2556
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http://www.latimes.com/features/home...4854.htmlstory

The interactive panorama thing on this (in full screen mode) is amazing - especially if you have a 30" monitor.

I can see a day when I can virtually be at a party through this kind of technology - while a hologram of me interacts with the live people at the party.
That fire is awfully close to the rug and wooden bench imo
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:22 PM   #2557
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#3 - That foreground is wayyy too dark and the and the upper left part of the sky needs some work as well. If you are not autobracketing or using filters getting the full dynamic range of a shot like this is going to be extremely difficult. Also composition wise I think it would work better if you shot lower and closer to the flowers so that their white petals can contrast starkly against the dark midground area, rather than against the white snow.
FYI - here's a photo our guide (the pro photographer) took of that same scene:


http://www.marcadamus.com/photo.php?...allery=newwork

Also here's one he got of the ice near where I got the jagged ice shot:



And here's my (mostly un-worked-on yet) version:



I think he did a focus blend of at least 3 images to get the whole thing in focus. It also looks like he widened the image and did a mirror flip. Interesting.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:08 PM   #2558
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Anyone here could give me advice on the canon utility software that comes with all its dslr's?

I really like the live view feauture where you control the photo and video feautures via a computer. The problem with this though is that I need to connect my dslr to the computer via an av cable.

I normally connect my notebook to a projector at events I'm hosting. Is there any way for me to carry out the remote live view stuff via a wireless set up instead of using an av cable?

Having someone snap pics at my events and have them immediately appear on the projection screen would be great. Even better would be using the camera to project live video on the screen while I perform card magic at a small table on stage.

Is this possible?
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:40 PM   #2559
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Anyone here could give me advice on the canon utility software that comes with all its dslr's?

I really like the live view feauture where you control the photo and video feautures via a computer. The problem with this though is that I need to connect my dslr to the computer via an av cable.

I normally connect my notebook to a projector at events I'm hosting. Is there any way for me to carry out the remote live view stuff via a wireless set up instead of using an av cable?

Having someone snap pics at my events and have them immediately appear on the projection screen would be great. Even better would be using the camera to project live video on the screen while I perform card magic at a small table on stage.

Is this possible?
It's possible, but will cost you like $1000
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/...s/wft_e2_e3.do
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:34 PM   #2560
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here's a photo our guide (the pro photographer) took of that same scene:
Damn that looks great. Do you know what lens he was using? 70-200 ? I feel like my wide angle lens would make those mountains off in the distance look much smaller.

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Old 12-30-2011, 05:24 PM   #2561
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No idea. I know he uses the Canon 1MarkD (or whatever the top of the line full frame Canon) with the Nikon wide angle and the rest Canon lenses. Wide angle wouldn't work on that shot obv.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:07 PM   #2562
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Anyone here could give me advice on the canon utility software that comes with all its dslr's?

I really like the live view feauture where you control the photo and video feautures via a computer. The problem with this though is that I need to connect my dslr to the computer via an av cable.

I normally connect my notebook to a projector at events I'm hosting. Is there any way for me to carry out the remote live view stuff via a wireless set up instead of using an av cable?

Having someone snap pics at my events and have them immediately appear on the projection screen would be great. Even better would be using the camera to project live video on the screen while I perform card magic at a small table on stage.

Is this possible?
what SLR? What about an Eye-Fi?
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:08 AM   #2563
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what SLR? What about an Eye-Fi?
Hey that looks really cool. It does solve the issue of how to upload pics onto the projection screen immediately but a live view still isn't possible I think. I'm intending for my actions on stage to be seen in real time.

Thanks a lot either way, I'll get an eye-fi card for pics and get a cameraman to run around at events to take pics. I think to have a live view, I'll just get a really long av cable since the camera won't be moving around on stage much.

Oh I'm using a eos 600d/t3i.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:54 AM   #2564
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Just got my first DSLR a couple of days ago (550d with kit lens 18-55mm). Complete fish at photography atm! Here's my cross-eyed cat, anyway.

The first was taken through a dirty window, hence there's a couple of annoying blurry bits.



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Old 12-31-2011, 02:39 PM   #2565
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Yeah there is definitely some laziness aspect. But also there's also a certain rhythm to hand-held that seems to help inspire me creatively. Maybe my calling is more of a travel photographer.

When I try to set up the shot through a tripod, the composition turns from an artistic expression where I just kind of feel it in the moment as I take the shot--into a mechanical exercise where I'm nudging the camera back and forth and starting to doubt my original vision. Also my tripod is about a foot lower than my head, which makes it a little uncomfortable and changes the scene obviously from what I had envisioned while standing there.

It might be one of those things like pool where if you learn to play in a bar, you're always going to play better on a few beers (unless you retrain yourself). I definitely need to retrain myself to get more comfortable with a tripod. Our tour guide said he hates using his as well and only uses it when he needs to, which made me feel a little better.

I'm definitely going to get a non-back-packing tripod that comes up to eye-level and is easy to set up. That should help me a lot.

I have a similar issue with wide angle - where I can't just scan around and see the shot I want. I have to imagine it in my head. This was my first trip with a wide angle and I definitely had some challenges composing good shots--especially with fields of flowers, which you'd think would be easy but I found really challenging to get a good composition. We were at Three Jacks in the middle of a multi-acre field of crazy purple wild flowers and other colors. It's by far the most amazing wildflower display I've ever seen and I really struggled to find any great shots.
What I'll do is set up the tripod behind me then move around handheld trying different viewpoints and levels until I find one I like then try to duplicate it with the tripod setup. Nobody likes using a tripod but its a necessary evil if you want sharp shots and to have bracketed exposures to work from if you need them.

You also should try to get as familiar with photoshop as you can before your next workshop with Adamus so he can teach you some of his more advanced techniques. Get as much out of that resource as you can.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:51 PM   #2566
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Saw this, thought some of you may find it interesting - a 31,536,000 second exposure of the Toronto skyline using a pinhole camera.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...y?bn=1#article

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Chrisman uses photosensitive paper in his cameras, as opposed to film, because it is less sensitive to light. A typical daylight exposure with a pinhole camera loaded with film is several seconds long, or less.

Even so, with the length of Chrisman’s exposures, the paper is extremely overexposed. There is no need to use chemicals to bring up the image. After so long, it is there on its own and visible to the naked eye.

“If I were to try to develop the paper in a traditional darkroom, the image would be lost,” said Chrisman.

Instead, he uses a scanner to capture the image from the paper, and in doing so, destroys the paper image itself. “The bright light of the scanner slowly erases the image, inch by inch, as it captures it.”

What took a year to make is gone in moments, but lives on in a digital form.

“Time is always a major component in photography, but is usually dealt with in fractions of a second,” writes Chrisman, explaining his interest in lengthy exposures. “Exploring the limits of the medium is part of what drew me to attempting this photograph.
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Oh, awesome; thanks for the link!
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:37 AM   #2568
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pretty cool to see how the path of the sun changes from the winter to summer. never realized how concave (relative to the horizon) it is in the summer!
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What I'll do is set up the tripod behind me then move around handheld trying different viewpoints and levels until I find one I like then try to duplicate it with the tripod setup. Nobody likes using a tripod but its a necessary evil if you want sharp shots and to have bracketed exposures to work from if you need them.
Do you use the bracketing function on your camera or just manually change the shutter or aperture?

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Yeah that's been the goal for a while now. Making myself sit down and do it is another thing. The older I get the less fun learning new stuff becomes. But I think I'm starting to get over the hump where it's not just frustration and intimidation at all the features and more like I now have the tools to do exactly what I want and make my exact vision come through.

So hopefully that will make me a little less averse. I wonder if there are Photoshop clubs, like writers clubs? Where every week you have to work on a pic, then come in and talk about it. That would help me a ton.
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Do you use the bracketing function on your camera or just manually change the shutter or aperture?
Shouldn't you only change the shutter if you bracket so the DOF stays the same?

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So hopefully that will make me a little less averse. I wonder if there are Photoshop clubs, like writers clubs? Where every week you have to work on a pic, then come in and talk about it. That would help me a ton.
We could do like a monthly little photo project where everyone interested takes a picture and post it ITT and we can discuss the pics from setup to post processing. Could be a specific theme like B&W one month and portrait the next or just free every month.

One step further would be to use Google+ Hangouts to share screens to do it Live.

Thoughts?

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Shouldn't you only change the aperture if you bracket so the DOF stays the same?
If you want the DoF to remain constant for exposure bracketing, then you want to change shutter speed, not aperture.
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If you want the DoF to remain constant for exposure bracketing, then you want to change shutter speed, not aperture.
Yes that's what I meant, don't know what I was thinking while I wrote that.

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We could do like a monthly little photo project where everyone interested takes a picture and post it ITT and we can discuss the pics from setup to post processing. Could be a specific theme like B&W one month and portrait the next or just free every month.

One step further would be to use Google+ Hangouts to share screens to do it Live.

Thoughts?
Yes I would be all for this. We can probably even get Mike Kelley to come in and give us some pointers from a true expert every now and then.
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I would potentially be down for that if it ever got off the ground!
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wow suzz your guide has some amazing shots, very cool.
and your shots, as always, are great.

A+ NewSkol, maybe my favorite pics ITT.
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