Overeem confirmed Dutch (MMA/Fightin' Discussion) - Page 9 - EDF Forum

Two Plus Two Forums 2+2 Communities EDF

Overeem confirmed Dutch (MMA/Fightin' Discussion)

View Poll Results: Who wins?? (No vote if you think the other guy wins)

Michael Bisping beats Hendo (No check = Hendo wins)

24 64.86%

Gegard Mousasi beats Vitor (No check = Vitor wins)

27 72.97%

RDA beats Tony Ferguson (No check = Ferguson wins)

25 67.57%

Eddie Alvarez beats Conor McGregor (No check = McGregor wins)

17 45.95%

Tyron Woodley beats Wondeboy Thompson (No check = Wonderboy wins)

4 10.81%

Joanna Champion beats Karolina K (No check = Karolina wins)

31 83.78%

Chris Weidman beats Yoel Romero (No check = Yoel wins)

19 51.35%

Cowboy beats Kelvin Gastelum (No check = Kelvin wins)

26 70.27%

Khabib beats Michael Johnson (No check = Johnson wins)

33 89.19%

Tim Kennedy beats Rashad Evans (No check = Rashad wins)

26 70.27%

...

Page 9 of 39

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last

Page 9 of 39

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last

10-11-2016 , 09:43 PM

#201

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,040

Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

He's a VERY good defensive end. Dude was elite.

Main issue was he never showed remorse for anything.

"Anything" here being a history of domestic violence.

10-11-2016 , 09:57 PM

#202

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,191

I thought he was a bad professional in Dallas as well. Late/absent to meetings and the like, never changed his behavior to any degree.

That's why he's blackballed.

Ok - just fact checked myself.

Quote:

But Cowboys officials acknowledge the behavioral issues that existed with Hardy before Nov. 6 were more pronounced once those photos became public. The number of times he was late to meetings increased. So did reports of him being spotted at bars in downtown Dallas late into the evening in the days leading up to games.

Quote:

Gregory has a problem with addiction. That's not Hardy's fault.
But there was a growing concern at Valley Ranch that Hardy had become a negative influence on Gregory during the player's rookie season. It's a stretch to say that Hardy took Gregory under his wing, but he certainly didn't provide a positive example of what it takes to be a professional in the league.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dall...-agent-outcast

That stuff was on top of the more obvious DA issues. He was a poor professional or he'd prbly still have opportunities.

Last edited by DodgerIrish; 10-11-2016 at 10:03 PM. Reason: citation

10-12-2016 , 07:02 AM

#203

pissychips

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,029

Can anyone make sense of what Weidman was talking about on MMA hour? Saying that he only got the fight at 205 after a 2 hour dinner meeting with Dana in New York where they came to the conclusion that it would be better if Weidman flew over to Vegas and spoke with Lorenzo at his house.

How is Lorenzo able to do anything to get the fight sorted if he's sold the company? Has he agreed to pay Weidman out of his own pocket?

10-12-2016 , 09:56 AM

#204

augie_

missed out on bitcoin

Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,627

Quote:

Originally Posted by pissychips

he already had the fight, he wanted to renegotiate his contract.

dana and chris could not agree on a number. chris had never negotiated with dana before and had a better deal with lorenzo cooking before the sale went down. so dana agreed to honor whatever deal chris and lorenzo came up with so chris went to vegas to finish their negotiation.

10-12-2016 , 10:33 AM

#205

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

So you know that dictator/president of chechnya who loves MMA and lots of fighters go hang out with him? Apparently he had some 12 year olds full contact fighting and Fedor called it reprehensible. And apparently this made a lot of people mad including Khabib who blocked Fedor on twitter and some of the presidents thugs who issued vague threats.

And apparently today Fedors 16 year old daughter was attacked and hospitalized.

10-12-2016 , 01:42 PM

#206

Codecci

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,716

jesus

10-12-2016 , 02:34 PM

#207

pissychips

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,029

Ronda V Nunes is a go then.

My money will be on Ronda.

10-12-2016 , 03:43 PM

#208

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

ugh fedor must feel so powerless in a situation like that, poor guy. talk about pure scum targetting someone's daughter

10-13-2016 , 12:46 AM

#209

Adebisi

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,965

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

ugh fedor must feel so powerless in a situation like that, poor guy. talk about pure scum targetting someone's daughter

I was actually wondering who he's going to have handle this matter, Aleksander's Russian Mob friends or Putin's secret police. Maybe even some oligarch's private security team. Things are probably going to get real ugly for the guy(s) that beat up his daughter.

10-13-2016 , 04:55 AM

#210

DTD

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adebisi

I think Alex may be in prison now, but either way I'm not sure Fedor is a guy I'd want to get on the wrong side of.

10-13-2016 , 12:26 PM

#211

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

I think Alex may be in prison now, but either way I'm not sure Fedor is a guy I'd want to get on the wrong side of.

Well the other side is crazy radical Chechnya muslims who support the crazy Chechnya dictator. Whom I think is cool with Putin.

But maybe the pawn who actually beat up Fedors daughter ends up dead just to settle things.

10-13-2016 , 02:14 PM

#212

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

Apparently a bunch of guys test levels at ufc 189 were suspicious including Conor, Robbie, and Mendes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comment...ls_for_almost/

Quote:

For anyone who wonders what this actually means since it seems many are set on commenting without actually understanding the document.
First, keep in mind that the top 5% of the population has approximately 10 ng/dl of testosterone under the age of 25 (when testosterone is typically highest). This means that that 95% of the population falls below this level, and finding someone above of this range is extremely rare, even varying by only 1-2 ng/dl. Most people are going to have around maybe 3-7 ng/dl total in their system depending on age.
Conor had 34 ng/dl which is 3.4x the level of the top 95% of the population.
Dennis Bermudez had 29 ng/dl which is 2.9x the level of the top 95% of the population
Robbie had 51 ng/dl which is 5.1x the level of the top 95% of the population

Though apparently urine is unreliable for these types of tests so its not 100% certain of anything.

10-13-2016 , 02:58 PM

#213

Johnny Truant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 8,058

Everyone is on steroids.

10-13-2016 , 05:39 PM

#214

PokerRon247

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 11,192

I know everyone's on steroids, but is it not also possible that being an outlier in terms of test levels is a precursor to succeeding in a sport like mma?

10-13-2016 , 05:52 PM

#215

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

no way

10-13-2016 , 06:04 PM

#216

PokerRon247

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 11,192

Why not? I don't know too much about this so sorry if it's an obvious answer.

10-13-2016 , 06:05 PM

#217

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

they have multiple times more than the top 95%.

Theyre not just like the top 1% they're somewhere in the stratosphere

10-13-2016 , 06:39 PM

#218

cwar

Free Hugz

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,127

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerRon247

I know everyone's on steroids, but is it not also possible that being an outlier in terms of test levels is a precursor to succeeding in a sport like mma?

I'd bet money that almost every MMA fighter started with above average test levels before they started fighting. That said, getting hit in the head seems to not be great for test levels.

That said, I would be 0% shocked if any of those guys were using PEDs.

10-13-2016 , 08:32 PM

#219

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,191

10-13-2016 , 08:45 PM

#220

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

man aldo makes himself look worse and worse every time he opens his mouth.

10-13-2016 , 09:19 PM

#221

rubbrband

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,447

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerRon247

I know everyone's on steroids, but is it not also possible that being an outlier in terms of test levels is a precursor to succeeding in a sport like mma?

If the average man has a 6in dick and the top porn stars have 10in dicks, why does Conor have a 20in dick?

10-13-2016 , 09:29 PM

#222

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

steroids.

10-14-2016 , 01:37 AM

#223

Rossonero

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 288

Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Apparently a bunch of guys test levels at ufc 189 were suspicious including Conor, Robbie, and Mendes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comment...ls_for_almost/

Though apparently urine is unreliable for these types of tests so its not 100% certain of anything.

Hmmm took a look at the tests and it seems results are in ml while the quote you made is in dl which is 10x so I dont think levels seem to be off, at least to me but I'm not an expert and I might not be reading it right.

10-14-2016 , 09:51 PM

#224

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,040

"If Aldo gets released today, he isn't signed tomorrow by another major promotion"-Chael

Dude...

10-14-2016 , 10:12 PM

#225

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

I can't see Aldo actually wanting to be released to fight for another promotion. How much would Bellator really pay him? Nowhere close to what he'd make in the UFC now that he's getting decent pay. I mean maybe theres the tiniest chance he's really so mad he's willing to take a paycut to try and help the UFC's competitor... but yea that'd be ridiculous.

But yea obviously other orgs would want him but don't think they'd be willing to pay him the 500k-1million+ he would get from the UFC.

Page 9 of 39

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last

...

Page 9 of 39

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last