right hes not getting aldo'd either its like hes surprised everytime when those connected lol

I am truly uninformed on the topic, but does the same person gain a chin advantage when they hold more weight? I mean I could see if you have someone gain a ton of pure muscle and it stabilizes their head and neck significantly, but at this margin does it work that way? Doesn't co or hit harder when he has more weight behind him too?

Real questions.

Joe Rogan spoke about it when the IV ban came in and said guys who cut more weight now will be easier to KO as studies show when guys dehydrated there was less fluid around their brains and this fluid was hard to replenish in such a short amount of time without an IV.

So in theory if a guy is getting dropped when he hasn't cut much weight the same shots landing after he has been dehydrated would cause him problems.

i dont know the ratio of weaker-chin vs weaker-power or w/e we want to call it is in reality, but if we're agreeing that McGregor would be the exact same weight fighting at 155 than he was fighting at 170 (about 170 in both right?) than he should gain something from that.

Pissy,

Great point. I think they are going to start collecting stats based on level of hydration to counsel fighters on the benefit of not cutting too much also.

Kirby,

Makes sense. I'm not convinced it will be the difference between the war we just saw and the loss we saw previous and crushing him, but I am wrong a hell of a lot.

khabib/barboza is interesting to me.

tony ferguson mentioned that being in the works as opposed to khabib fighting for title shot.

man its so obvious khabib deserves the shot on merit of the 55ers. everyone shames themselves when they suggest otherwise. conor can jump the line but cmon tony.

rda//ferguson

def. hard to confidently pick sides on this match, two of most talented LW fighters. both seem like they are well aware of the elevation and preparing for it in mexico city. most excited for this fight at the moment.

well sure, but with that said, khabibs last fight was against someone with a full time job. before that he did not fight for over 2 yrs in which he had extensive history of pulling out of fights.


khabib/alvarez, at least to me, is pretty zzzz but if that is what ends up happening so be it. as stimabuser mentioned, they should of announced it by now but they are leaving the door open for connor if he wants the LW strap.

Khabib has only had one top 10 win (RDA 2 years ago), so I think there's a case to be made that Tony's resume justifies a shot more than Khabib's.

Only if you assume Diaz won't also be the exact same weight. As Stim said, he's not a big LW, so there's no reason to assume he can't rehydrate fully. 15-20 pounds (presumably what Diaz would cut) is pretty standard these days. Diego gained back 26 pounds after cutting to FW. Cut's and rebounding from them are different for everybody, though, so there's not much you can assume across fighters.

Those knockdowns looked so strange, it didn't look like he was really hurt. I thought maybe he was falling down because his leg was hurt? The knockdowns in round two cost him the fight imo.

but if diaz cuts 20 pounds to LW thats still a 175lbs maximum, and he was 100% bigger than that at the WW fight.

and it also drains him more to cut that much.

no?

not necessarily, and nobody know's how big Diaz was in the cage other than the man himself. He looked no different than any of his LW fights, and he certainly didn't look much bigger than Conor so I see no reason to think he's lying about only cutting 5 pounds.

he didnt look different than in his lightweight fights?
we disagree on that i suppose

You really think these two look that different?

I doubt this. I don't think a few pounds of LBM and fat will make the difference. Getting head kicked in the temple would do it though

wat

looks like a fan (partygirluk?) stoked to be taking a pic with the NOTORIOUS, who cant even be arsed to look at the camera

i think it was a combo of everything - basically he was getting absolutely lit up on the feet for the first round and a half so decided to try sitting down in the hope conor would jump on him, but also to get a break from the onslaught. i haven't rewatched the fight, and there were definitely some very solid shots in there, but i think he was voluntarily going down on at least the majority, maybe even all.

pretty hard to overstate how bad nate looked in the first 7 mins and how good conor looked. it was really pretty shocking.

theres zero chance he was going down on purpose

I think you are definitly overthinking it, i think Nate has too much ego to go down on purpose, going slow at first is one thing dropping on purpose is not gangster.

well, i have disagreed with your last 20 posts in this thread, so i'm quite relieved you don't agree with me

but seriously, i just downloaded the fight and rewatched those bits, and you guys are right. the first one he's wobbling beforehand and goes down hard. the second he goes down pretty hard but like in the first, is instantly moving his way to the middle of the ring whilst on the canvas and going on the offensive with leg kicks. the third he went down pretty easy, i guess, but i can't really say he did it on purpose. in all of these he looked pretty fine and didn't seem to ever be completely rocked.

the end of the second round is so wild, there's a spot with 50 seconds left where conor is gassed and taking a huge onslaught, loses his footing and recovers very well to stay on his feet and not hit the mat with his back to the cage. it could have been all over right there.

I think that him losing his footing there was a good chunk of the reason the round ended so badly for him. I think if he doesn't trip there he's in a much better position to weather the storm, circle away etc, but it allowed Diaz to advance on him and land more shots while Conor was concentrating more on just standing up than defending vs strikes.

yep, likely true, was just saying it could have been much worse. nate was so inefficient in the last minute of that round after the trip, ugh.