I feel as if piropos should make an appearance in this discussion.

If so, which cultures produce guys with game? Argentine culture must have produced enough guys with game to reproduce enough to keep the culture alive.

What about other places in South America? Impressions of Chile? Bolivia? Other cities in Argentina? Anyone have experience with a language school?

There are plenty of intelligent guys who have figured out what Portenas respond to. What I am suggesting is that for every guy in the U.S. who awkwardly stands in the corner of the bar like he is at a high school dance there is a Porteno who will approach just about any girl and let his thoughts be known. I don't follow the logic that the latter will inhibit reproduction over the former.

I think it is hasty to conclude that Argentines, even generally, have no game or less game than anyone else. An overwhelming percentage of Argentine men are aggressive and it follows that their failures will be publically showcased, creating the illusion that there are more guys with less "game." Though Argentine women have responded with passivity and resistance to showing their affections right away, there are plenty of Argentines who clearly reap tremendous benefits from being aggressive.

It really skews perception of the average when a few gameless cavernicolas obnoxiously will not rest until they are shot down by every girl in a bar. Their gameless American counterparts usually go unnoticed because they don't have the heart to continue after their first couple attempts flop or because they are twiddling their thumbs in the shadows, too nervous to use whatever game they might have.

I'm coming into BA tomorrow (the 2nd) through the 6th before the LAPT in Uruguay.. I have no plans other than just checking out the city, if anyone wants to meet up and be poker nerds over some drinks or food, let me know.

re: girls

My experience has been somewhat different, but then I haven't really tried to meet any girls in bars (and I haven't been here as long). I've met most girls I know here through friends of friends. Girls have been aggressive in talking with me and I didn't really like it. Although I guess I'd note that these girls weren't terribly interested in talking to me until they found out I was an American.

Oh, and at Argentine parties, there's definitely plenty male aggression. And I've seen people making out after about 10 seconds of talking. Or less.

O RLY?

To the guys living there right now, do you all live in your own 1 bdrm apt? Also, how much do you pay?

I was there for a month in Feb. and stayed in a 1 bedroom apt in Recoleta. Got the place for $750.00 from byt. Nice building, doorman, AC, internet ...

Of course I didn't suggest that this approach is never successful here. There wouldn't be lots of little Argentinans running around if it never worked (and there are).

It's just that it seems to be more of a scattergun / numbers game approach.

Totally agree. A guy who has the confidence to step up and go it will always do better than someone who won't. Lack of game or not.

What I am saying is that Confidence - Game = Scattergun. And it's very typical of the guys here. I was out last night and saw a text book example. Was hanging with a porteño in a bar and he wanted to approach two girls so we went and chatted to them for a while. They seem cool to chat to us. We pulled up chairs and joined them at the table.

Now this guy was a pretty fun guy to hang out with. Had a good fun vibe about him, he was confident and, when he was talking to the porteña he was interested in she was smiling a lot, laughing at his jokes etc.

However, he got so in her face that he screwed up his chances. It was kinda funny.

These links now, classes when you get there

http://www.studyspanish.com/
http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/
http://www.notesinspanish.com/
http://www.wordreference.com/

Hey.

Just moved to Buenos Aires for 6 months -- arived 2 days ago. I'm based right near the Congreso Nacional.

Does anyone know if mobile internet is available here? (the wireless connection in my student house isn't so good) I.e. you plug a USB modem into your laptop and can dial out and receive an internet connection wherever you could ordinarily obtain a cellphone signal? Usually, you have to pay a monthly contract...

Lastly, are there any regular two plus two socials? If there are I would be up for getting involved.

thanks,

James

This week we're going to try Aire Creacocina

Bonpland 1577 in Palermo Hollywood. 9pm, Tuesday.

Would not bother.

The are open WiFi connections everywhere. Jist find a cool cafe / bar kind of place near you that you like hanging out in and see if you can pick up a wifi signal.

Or get internet installed where you are living.