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MMA/Fightin' Thread - Now with actual good fights!! MMA/Fightin' Thread - Now with actual good fights!!
View Poll Results: Who wins??
Tyron Lanket Woodley
7 26.92%
Stephen Randall Thompson
17 65.38%
Khabib Abdulmanapovich Nurmagomedov
21 80.77%
Anthony Armand Ferguson
4 15.38%
Mark Richard Hunt
16 61.54%
Alistair Cees Overeem
8 30.77%
Daniel Ryan Cormier
16 61.54%
Anthony Kewoa Johnson
8 30.77%
Christopher James Weidman
16 61.54%
Geghard Movsesian
8 30.77%

03-05-2017 , 02:31 AM
Is the consensus that Woodley won it with the final round flurry/knockdown - otherwise wonderboy would have won it? I haven't seen the scorecards


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03-05-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nutsfl0pper
Does anyone remember that the scoring is striking, grappling, aggression, and octagon control?
Stats have Wonderboy controlling the Octagon in the first 2 rounds 4:32 and 4:51 respectively, with Woodley owning 0 on both. Strikes/significant strikes are relatively close.
03-05-2017 , 02:43 AM
worst fight of all time?
03-05-2017 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
worst fight of all time?
Theres been a few worse, like Nate Quarry vs Kalib Starnes, but it's up there. Easily worst title fight of all time.

Thought Wonderboy won but super disappointed in him. Can't believe he didn't let his striking go more. Both fighters deserved to lose tbh
03-05-2017 , 02:53 AM
I find it really hard to blame Wonderboy. He gets caught with a big right hand or taken down and the fight can be instantly over. Wonderboy was actively going after Woodley, but he didn't want to commit and get countered or taken down. Woodley was doing nothing and mainly just baiting Wonderboy into committing and/or stalling to make up for a ****ty gas tank.
03-05-2017 , 02:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirbynator
worst fight of all time?
Only 5 round fight I can think of where Joe commented that somebody was gonna need a KO in the fifth to win, and that person wasn't heavily banged up going into the round. He needed a KO in the 5th because he didn't do **** all fight!
03-05-2017 , 02:56 AM
TW: Come at me
WB: Ok, but I'm not committing
TW: No, really come at me
WB: No
TW: Ok, I'm just going to stall to conserve energy...
03-05-2017 , 03:04 AM
I agree, but at the same time you can't really allow rounds to be that close. Especially when most of these ******ed judges still subscribe to that " gotta beat the champ to become the champ " nonsense and just give any close round to the champ.

I blame Woodley more for it being boring, but Wonderboy should have done more. I mean he should have won or draw at worst, but yea if you fight scared like that and leave the rounds super close then stuff like this happens.

Gonna be hilarious to hear Woodleys trash talk after this lol.
03-05-2017 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
i had it 3-2 woodley cuz of the 5th round.

no takedowns for wonderboy.

woodley was never even wobbled by wonderboy.


wonderboy taken down twice.

wonderboy wobbled and dropped by woodley.


pretty easy 3-2 woodley.
so it looks like you gave 2 rounds to woodley, where the **** did your third come from?
03-05-2017 , 03:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Stats have Wonderboy controlling the Octagon in the first 2 rounds 4:32 and 4:51 respectively, with Woodley owning 0 on both. Strikes/significant strikes are relatively close.
Exactly. Thank you

Scores are based on the scoring rules and this is a 5 round fight.

What would happen if it kept going in a 15 round fight? Infinite rounds? Someone would win eventually. Who cares? This is a 5 round fight within the given rules.

With basically even (none) striking and grappling, Thompson controlled the octagon most rounds with more aggression in most rounds.
03-05-2017 , 07:23 AM
Forgot what I was gonna say
03-05-2017 , 10:54 AM
I thought it was pretty clear that Thompson deserved no worse than a draw under the letter of the current rules. Also thought that Woodley was the only one who ever looked remotely threatening or caused any significant damage, and to the extent that a fight is about trying to hurt the other guy, he probably won.

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03-05-2017 , 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Stats have Wonderboy controlling the Octagon in the first 2 rounds 4:32 and 4:51 respectively, with Woodley owning 0 on both. Strikes/significant strikes are relatively close.
Both Woodley judges gave him the 2nd round

03-05-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
worst fight of all time?
it has to be a contender. what a joke.

obviously wonderboy could be given rounds 1,2,4 for the win, but it seems kinda weak to take somebody's title from them when you did next to nothing to earn it. on the flip side, seems unfair to let somebody keep their title when they spend 23 minutes napping in the octagon.

i say vacate the title and scrap the whole ****ing division, bunch of washed up fatasses and cheaters anyway
03-05-2017 , 01:20 PM
oh well, two great prelim comebacks, death by uberknee and a good war between teymur and lando, guess it could have been worse
03-05-2017 , 01:25 PM
The ladies fight was over quick, you had to like that.
03-05-2017 , 02:19 PM
fast forwarded the stream this morning, i dont buy these things anymore

UFC can EAD
03-05-2017 , 02:24 PM
Woodley should have won the first fight and this should have been a no contest with both fighters being released as soon as the decision was made official.
03-05-2017 , 02:29 PM
Thought Cruz/Rogan/Anik combo was really good. Cruz still occasionally talks like 15 seconds to long but he'll fix that with more practice.

I honestly don't care who actually won the TW/WB fight - I'm just glad it's over and we never have to see it again. WB nearly got slept in both fights so I think Woodley holding onto the belt is fine.

Looking forward to Woodley's next fight vs a Diaz brother
03-05-2017 , 02:31 PM
people were booing 60 seconds into the fight and i was like "awww man come on"

but then by the 4th round i was sympathizing with the boo'ers

when the decision was being read everyone was booing HUGE and then when woodley was announced there were some moderate cheers (i'm assuming from those who put money on him) and then the boos returned. couldn't even hear woodley's post fight interview, all i could hear were boos.
03-05-2017 , 02:48 PM
Sal D'Amato again proving he's the only living judge who knows how to score a fight.

Also, if Charlize Theron is going to sit cageside all night, she's gonna need to put on an octagon girl uniform. Either that or make TWood's lady do it. I'm fine either way.
03-05-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bluef0x
yeah, you're an idiot if you think running away for 4 rounds (or throwing baby leg kicks) and winning 1 round deserves a win
By the book I think Wonderboy won, I'm just happy the judges implemented Pride rules and gave it to Tyron. WB didn't do anything in those four rounds other than walk Tyron down, then he almost got finished (again).

Neither guy deserved the win, really.
03-05-2017 , 03:42 PM
Wonderboy did hit Woodley with some decent shots, he just didn't really follow it up with anything.

I understand people saying that Woodley won the overall fight but those aren't the rules. Thompson had every reason to believe he didn't need the 5th to win the fight and thus didn't take the necisarry risks to win the 5th or the overall fight. The rules aren't good but they are the rules.
03-05-2017 , 11:54 PM
I have always disliked woodley and never been a huge wonderboy fan. I liked watching him dismantle Hendricks but seeing how far that dude fell it isn't as amazing an accomplishment as I felt it was at the time. Meanwhile, Maia is crapped on. Because of all this and due to the **** performance by both of them last night I am happy with the outcome.

Woodley has the belt but most think he doesn't deserve it which will tilt him. WB didn't get the belt by playing it exceedingly safe after barely winning a few crap rounds. It is as close to both of them losing as allowable.

Watching wonderboy fans waste breath on why he should be the WW champ after that performance is the only minor downside. Yeah he probably should have had the decision but he deserves to be bumped back down and work his way back up once a real champ beats Woodley. If it turns out he isn't too gun shy to be effective from being punched silly the last two fights he'll rise again.

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03-06-2017 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
I have always disliked woodley and never been a huge wonderboy fan. I liked watching him dismantle Hendricks but seeing how far that dude fell it isn't as amazing an accomplishment as I felt it was at the time. Meanwhile, Maia is crapped on. Because of all this and due to the **** performance by both of them last night I am happy with the outcome.
This basically describes TJ Grant's rise.

Unfortunately, he never saw it to fruition though.

      
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