John Malcovich will be sporting a Fondale in his new flick:

http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/2010...-oceanime.html

I don't know if I completely agree with this, at least not 'take a bath'.. I am still relatively new to the watch obsession scene but I have been noticing top demand watch brands, held in good shape and all box and papers hold a decent amount of value. I would think if that IWC above is running you $2300 new, you can probably sell it worn with typical use after some time somewhere in the $1500-$1700 range pretty comfortably.. I don't think these things 'half' on you like driving the car off the lot... at least not the mainstream/in demand brands and models?

Anyone want to get rid of an IWC? hehe I'd like to add to what little I have.

$600-800 on a $2300 investment is pretty steep IMO. it's not half but it's still pretty bad. Just buy the used piece if you're concerned about conserving value. You're not going to take a significant hit when selling if you're the 2nd owner vs. being the 1st.

Can't argue that point....

The post just struck me as made up, so I looked at previous posts by the op.

"Done with college entering a big city and the working world. Time to mature. Having little to no previous watch experience - I decided I needed to buy my self a watch collection, because well I'm an adult now."

Kinda sounded like "Once upon a midnight dreary..." or "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." to me.

Yeah, I can see how someone could accidentally type f-r-e-s-h-m-a-n instead of g-r-a-d-u-a-t-e....sure, it could happen. Give me a friggin' break.

one of the main sticking points i focused on when getting my most recent watch was originality. like some have said, i think it would be pretty lame to be constantly meeting people with the exact same watch you have. also the fact that a limited edition timepiece (especially one with a unique colorway) actually has a chance to increase in value over time really sold me. even in msnl thread this month i think it was jsnipes who posted pics of him wearing his luminor. seems like it's really common. i like both the iwc and omega a lot and it would be tough for me to decide as my first watch was an omega (dad wore omega) and i've never owned IWC, but depending on how similar they are in price I think i'd rather have the IWC.

I agree with most of what uve stated. I would be all over the Pam if I didnt see at least half a dozen every time I go out. I think when spending that much money (might not be much to some, especially when talking about time pieces, but it's still a lot to me) I would like some exclusivity. With that said I'm leaning towards the Pilot chrono over the Omega.

As for holding its value comment. Buying a non limited edition watch is a luxury just like buying a car. I will be taking a hit no matter what. Im trying to compare say a Toyota vs a Saab, both will depreciate but the later will depreciate a lot more. Example: Rolexes tend to hold a better value than a Breitlings (generally speaking).

So what would hold a better market value here? Pam, IWC, or Omega?

Thanks everyone for their input

Something about black and brown mixed just doesn't look right to me.

omega railmaster is nice...the 42mm should fit most wrists. there's also an xl 48mm version if i'm not mistaken.

as for the question earlier about buying a iwc port for ad...i'm sure if you shop around you can get at least 10-15%...and if it means spending a couple hundos extra buying AD vs grey market, then it's well worth it.

I really want this watch:









unfortunately it's only a concept at this time.

^ insane

if you like a particular brand, then buy it. what others wear wouldn't affect my decision at all. there are also alot of panerais and rolex fakes...and the iwc pilot chrono is pretty awesome. many people that never wear a handwound watch before may have trouble getting used to panerai.

pam and iwc definitely hold their value better than omega.

requote for drool...

IMO in this order. IWC, PAM, Omega.

I've exclusively been buying used for quite a while. The only watches I've bought new were Rolex for a few very good reasons..

Expect to take a hit on almost any watch you buy. It's very basic supply and demand and the demand is certainly not growing as fast as these companies can pump out the supply.

That being said, I have two watches that are worth more than I paid for them. <3 patek <3

I was wondering if any of you guys know any brands that sell a watch similar to this one :



This one is 13 mm tall which is a bit too big for my taste and I have never really heard of "Eric Edelhausen". I would prefer getting a more popular brand with the same look. If anyone has seen such a watch, it would be greatly appreciated if you could post it here.

Cheers

Blah, it is nonsense that PAMs are everywhere. You might notice them more because you know watches and actively look at other people's wrists. But the fact remains that they are still "exclusive" due to the relatively low production runs.

IMO, buy whatever watch you desire most and will be happiest with. You cannot base your watch decision on others. It is your watch and you should be happy.

It seems that you wanted a PAM. I own a PAM 111. I prefer it over the 112. I like the motion and appearance of the seconds hand. Caseback is nice as well.

Both of the other watches you mention are not that "exclusive" either.


As far as holding value, you can't just mention a brand. It is watch specific within the brand.

For example, the base PAMs 000, 005, 111, and 112 will hold their value much better than the majority of other PAMs. These capture the essence of the company and will always be in demand, hence supporting their price. Many people who like Panerai will own multiple PAMs, and almost always their collection will include one of the base models.

The same is true with all watch brands, Rolex (Sub, GMT, Daytona), Omega (Planet Ocean) etc

But the most important thing is to make yourself happy the purchase.

IMO you should buy a mint condition used model if one of your concerns is maintaing value. You avoid the big value drop by buying used, and if you buy correctly you will get essentially a "brand new" watch.

Check timezone forum, watchuseek, watchnet, and rolexforums classifieds.

Good luck.

Really enamored with this new Zenith chrono with 1/10 second counter.

Yeah, I agree. In all my years of obsessively looking at people's watches, I have seen ONE Panerai in the wild.

But I guess I don't hang out at all the high-end Miami clubs like PVN....

Just got my first watch...was between an IWC and a breitling but I ended up going with the breitling...Thoughts? :

i mustve said this a million times but im not a bracelet guy.
the dial however = 4.3 stars
and obv a nice quality watch. good buy
how much did u pay for it

Yea some people prefer the leather band or whatever over the bracelet but Im obv more for the bracelet....Got it for $2300+ tax, they wanted 2945 but got a small discount and some extra knocked off since I paid cash.

Sweet watch. What size is it?

I believe its 41mm

redsox105, may I ask which IWC you were considering to purchase? I am still undecided between which "nicer" watch I want to buy. I got my every day watch (Oris) but I want something that I can wear to poker rooms so other online players will give me respect. HAHA Btw, really love ur avatar <3 Hurley.

IWC Pilot’s Watch Mark XVI
Portuguese Tourbillon Mystère Rétrograde, and
portofino Chronograpgh

The tourbillon was way more expensive then I though it would be and just decided to get the breitling over the other 2...I think those are around 3k-3.5k