Yes, it's true that quartz is more accurate because it's controlled electronically. Automatics/Handwinds are generally more desired and collectible by aficionados mostly because of the history and mechanical precision that they represent. A mechanical watch is a complex mechanism. The other good thing about mechanical watches is that they never need a battery change. If you keep them serviced, they can last for generations.

(Sorry for the double post.)

My Sinn U1 has arrived!

Wrist shots to follow....

grey pieces usually won't come with papers. COSC cert may or may not be included.

As for fakes, if the seller has a good reputation it's unlikely. Have him open up the back for you if you're concerned. But "feeling" real is not really much to bank on IMO. B's are probably the 2nd-most repped brand out there after Rolex (possibly third behand pannys) and some of the clones are really, really good. On the plus side, most of the serious B fakes are SOSF and SAs. The reppers spend a lot less time perfecting the less-popular models.

quartz is a ton more accuarte, it's more shock-resistant, requires virtually no maintenance other than battery changes. Basically it's more practical in virtually every aspect.

Watches, of course, are about everything except practicality. If you want practical, get a $25 timex.

In your opinion what is a good fake? Can you give me like 3 examples of fakes that you would consider for purchase (not that you would actually purchase one, but for recommendation purposes only). I've never read or heard anything regarding them. I'm sure there are good ones out there. Oh, and I don't necessarily mean "closest to the original", but rather just the quality and dependability of the watch.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Do you work in the watch business? If so, as what? (just curious)

Well they all have pretty much the same movements in them, chinese ETA clones. Some sellers say they offer pieces with genuine ETA movements, but those are probably just the same clone movements with the real ETA marks faked.

I don't really know anything about the long term reliability of these movements, but a competent watchmaker should have no problem servicing them. Many will refuse to work on them out of principle, but that's a different story.

Also, I do not work in the business.

Thanks for the reply pvn

just got the watch.

here it is.


just wondering, if you look at the picture the watch falls down my arm a few inches and just wondering if that is too loose and if i should get a link removed from the chain to make keep it from doing that. when its on the bottom of my wrist its gotta a thumbs width of seperation

http://s951.photobucket.com/albums/a...nt=Photo75.jpg

These videos have probably been posted before in this thread but its too lengthy for me to go through every post and besides I think its worth a repost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bj9n...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-Zy...layer_embedded

yah get a link removed it looks like

Thanks for reposting. I've never seen them before, and it is stunning. Amazing.

Nice vids. Incredible.

cross post from watchuseek forums..

thanks to the two guys on two plus two who explained mechanic vs quartz movement!!

Help me pick my first watch!!!!!

Hey fellas.. after a couple weeks of lurking the forums and doing hours of research, I think I've narrowed down my search to a few watches.

Right off the bat I noticed I was interested in diver watches, and narrowed the selection down to 4 of them...

The top runner right now is a Longines Hydroconquest.. The other three are the TT1 oris, edox c1 diver, and the tag heuer aquaracer.

I'd like to thank Watchyman for suggesting 3 of these 4, but I'd love to hear opinions on which one you would choose.

I like the looks of the longines the best, and that is mainly why it is the front runner. Another decision I have to make is automatic or quartz. I know you watch aficionados prefer the automatic, but from a few posts on the other forum I'm a part of, I think quartz might be the best option to start out with. Unless some of you can convince me an auto would be a good choice for my first watch.

Here are the posts:

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Yes, it's true that quartz is more accurate because it's controlled electronically. Automatics/Handwinds are generally more desired and collectible by aficionados mostly because of the history and mechanical precision that they represent. A mechanical watch is a complex mechanism. The other good thing about mechanical watches is that they never need a battery change. If you keep them serviced, they can last for generations.

Quote:

quartz is a ton more accuarte, it's more shock-resistant, requires virtually no maintenance other than battery changes. Basically it's more practical in virtually every aspect.

Watches, of course, are about everything except practicality. If you want practical, get a $25 timex.

If that is the case, I completely understand why the watch lovers choose an auto over a quartz. But for someone who just wants a watch that is quality made by a great brand and doesn't mind too much about the movement, I think quartz is the way to go right? Any comments are really appreciated, thanks guys!

does anyone here own a Rado Ceramica?



Sorry if you don't like the style, it works well for my hand because i got small and long wrist.
I currently own a movado fiero


and a "swiss tungsten monaco black", most people don't know about and there's not much info on them (except where to buy them) but I think it's a very nice looking watch, better than the movado. It feels more sturdy plus it's tungsten so I can wear it everyday and not worry about scratching it to hell. i got it for like $550 online instead of $700 at watch store, good value imo.



also recommendation on similar style watches would be appreciated. I'm in college so I tend to do stupid things while intoxicated so something scratch resistant like the ones listed above.

Price range 500-2k, i'm not baller like you guys. This is the first watch i'm going to purchasing using my own money (grinding the live tables). 21st bday yay!

Yes.

One other thing, about this comment:

"keeping them serviced" is pretty expensive, especially compared to battery changes, and needs to be figured into the cost of owning a mechanical watch. Rolex, for example, recommends a service every five years IIRC. This can take several weeks and will cost a few hundred bucks.

Quartz watches can also "last for generations", fwiw. And yes, you can find high-end pieces with quartz movements. Some of the thermocompensated quartz movements can be as interesting from a horological perspective as good mechanical movements IMO.

There is a high-end quartz forum on watchuseek. You should check it out. In the price range you're probably looking at there are some decent pieces by Brietling, Omega, and IIRC Longines has a quartz Hydroconquest.

I appreciate that people are different on this point but I just can't agree with it. To me, getting an expensive high-end brand watch with a quartz movement is just not right. Picking a quartz watch for practical reasons, which is perfectly fine, in some ways just contradicts with picking a watch that is "quality made by a great brand".

I know that quartz watches also differ in quality but AFAIK these differences are slight and IMO not worth a drastic price change. Using a lot of money on a watch without appreciating the beauty of mechanical movements doesn't make any sense to me.

We are all insane to accept spending thousands of dollars on something that simply tells time, but we have our reasons for doing so

So to sum up - I want you to get a mechanical watch

Just a hair under $800 for service and 3 weeks for my daytona.. I also pay something like $100/year in insurance too..

I'm big on TCO due to my line of work but a lot of people don't factor this type of stuff in..

Any thoughts on orient watches? I know they are Japanese not Swiss movement. Prices seem unbeatable for a skeleton automatic watch though.

Yeah, I kind of regretted leaving out the cost of service in my post. Knew I'd get pinged for that. It is not insignificant.

I have the same reservations, however irrational, about spending a lot of money on a quartz watch. Just can't bring myself to do it. But, to each his own.

Thoughts?

looks like a tag carrera chrono, i like it.

i don't get it. they are identical. must be cheaper?

It's like the difference between changing the oil on a Lamborghini (I've heard they're THE most expensive to service) vs a Toyota Corolla.