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Old 02-15-2009, 06:26 PM   #1231
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i doubt anyone will be impressed by your watch. buy it for your own enjoyment.
We must move in different circles.

That being said, I would never wear anything, particularly anything that expensive, that didn't bring me a great deal of personal enjoyment.
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Here is a "cleaner" version of the Lange1, without the second timezone:

Pure sex. Right up there with the port-chrono and JLC in this thread in terms of immediate face value.

big dates are sexy.
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We must move in different circles.

That being said, I would never wear anything, particularly anything that expensive, that didn't bring me a great deal of personal enjoyment.
i think you're going to be sorely disappointed if you believe people will be blown away by your watch. buy a $300k car or $5 million house if you wanna blow people away.
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god i have to get this watch

Where could you actually find this watch, its gorgeous and I'm in the watch market.
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Where could you actually find this watch, its gorgeous and I'm in the watch market.
Boyd's in Bala Cynwyd, PA has one. The Philadelphia store can get one in as well. JLC are very nice!
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i think you're going to be sorely disappointed if you believe people will be blown away by your watch. buy a $300k car or $5 million house if you wanna blow people away.
"When you meet a potential business partner, you don't see his house. You don't see his car, his wife, his diplomas. You see his watch, his shoes, his clothes."

I suppose being a business owner has made me more aware of first impressions. If you don't notice these things, that's fine. . . I never did either until recently.

But, trust me, there are people who do. Ladies, for one, and more than you would think. Many successful men are going to notice, as well. . . . In short, I've realized that the exact people I want to notice are the people who do notice.

Besides, as I posted previously, this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money.
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"When you meet a potential business partner, you don't see his house. You don't see his car, his wife, his diplomas. You see his watch, his shoes, his clothes."

I suppose being a business owner has made me more aware of first impressions. If you don't notice these things, that's fine. . . I never did either until recently.

But, trust me, there are people who do. Ladies, for one, and more than you would think. Many successful men are going to notice, as well. . . . In short, I've realized that the exact people I want to notice are the people who do notice.

Besides, as I posted previously, this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money.
i'm just curious, what watch (or um timepiece) are you considering?

you don't need lecture me on the importance of creating the right impression, however you seem kind of young or naive about these things. i know many very high net worth individuals who have no interest in fine watches, and one who thinks they are embarrassing. as long as the watch isn't cheap or tacky junk that detracts from your image, then a watch doesn't really matter to anyone.

clothes >>> watches when it comes to creating an impression (or craving attention in your case). this coming from a watch lover too.
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i'm just curious, what watch (or um timepiece) are you considering?

you don't need lecture me on the importance of creating the right impression, however you seem kind of young or naive about these things. i know many very high net worth individuals who have no interest in fine watches, and one who thinks they are embarrassing. as long as the watch isn't cheap or tacky junk that detracts from your image, then a watch doesn't really matter to anyone.

clothes >>> watches when it comes to creating an impression (or craving attention in your case). this coming from a watch lover too.
You do realize your entire statement is basically opinion. For every high net worth individual you know that has no interest in watches, and that one guy who thinks "they are embarrassing" (which I will admit a decent number of people think really expensive watches are), how many do you know that feel otherwise, and enjoy wearing nice watches. I'm not saying you are wrong, but it comes down to opinion. Some people think its criminal to fly first class, others think buying a 10,000 square foot house for a family of 4 is ridiculous, owning a luxury car is ridiculous, etc... its just all opinion.

Saying that he is "young and naive", just sounds kinda like a cop out from someone who doesn't agree with spending a lot of money on a watch and a way to like cast off this opinion as fact.

I dunno I'm rambling, that post just kinda bothered me when you started trying to claim you were right based off some sampling of wealthy individuals as if none of us either:

a. know "very many" high net worth individuals
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b. are high net worth individuals
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i'm just curious, what watch (or um timepiece) are you considering?

you don't need lecture me on the importance of creating the right impression, however you seem kind of young or naive about these things. i know many very high net worth individuals who have no interest in fine watches, and one who thinks they are embarrassing. as long as the watch isn't cheap or tacky junk that detracts from your image, then a watch doesn't really matter to anyone.

clothes >>> watches when it comes to creating an impression (or craving attention in your case). this coming from a watch lover too.
". . . this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money."

Wow, you're right. The above quote DOES make me sound like an attention whore! </sarcasm>

The two watches are the Patek and the Lange. Read the thread. . . .

There's a huge difference between wanting to look sharp and make an impression, and craving attention. In fact, the watches I'm considering are chosen specifically because they are elegant, classic, and of a timeless style unlikely to go out of fashion generations down the road. If I was "craving attention", I'd be looking at an iced-out hubcap that all the young guys seem to be wearing these days.

It's a subtle distinction, so maybe it's lost on you. You seem pretty sure of the statement "doesn't really matter to anyone." That's like saying a fine bottle of wine doesn't matter to anyone, or that a signed first edition Hemingway doesn't matter to anyone. That kind of broad generalization is what smacks of youthful niavete, and, frankly, it's not true.

EDIT: You are obviously a troll for hopping into a watch thread where people are discussing their favorite watches, and posting about how stupid it is to get a nice watch. Go away.

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Saying that he is "young and naive", just sounds kinda like a cop out from someone who doesn't agree with spending a lot of money on a watch and a way to like cast off this opinion as fact.
i agree with spending a lot of money on a watch. i like them. other people aren't really impressed by them.
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". . . this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money."

Wow, you're right. The above quote DOES make me sound like an attention whore! </sarcasm>

It's a subtle distinction, so maybe it's lost on you. You seem pretty sure of the statement "doesn't really matter to anyone." That's like saying a fine bottle of wine doesn't matter to anyone, or that a signed first edition Hemingway doesn't matter to anyone. That kind of broad generalization is what smacks of youthful niavete, and, frankly, it's not true.
in other posts you gave the impression that attention you will receive from wearing your watch is important.

wine matters. cars matter. houses matter. watches don't really matter to other people. the only time they matter is if they are cheap or tacky because that ruins an impression. it's not a generalization, it's simply my experience.
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wine matters. cars matter. houses matter. watches don't really matter to other people. the only time they matter is if they are cheap or tacky because that ruins an impression. it's not a generalization, it's simply my experience.
Yes. In your experience.

It's a good thing you're comfortable pushing your reality onto other people.

Does arrogance matter in your world as well? I hope for your sake it does, because you have it in abundance.

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I've lusted after this watch for so long. I need some stars to align before I could start making the hard choice between it or a Patek. I travel a lot, so the dual time zones thing is very handy.

I'm looking for something that's not going to go out of style in 20 years. The idea is that this is the watch I pass down to my son when he graduates college (assuming I haven't disowned the ungrateful little bastard by then.)

For comparison, here's the Patek Travel Time.
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I've already got my daily beater to wear when I'm low key. I can't see my self strapping on any 30k watch and playing volleyball. Personally, I'm looking for a "special" watch to wear to the events, going out, and when I want to show off at the poker table. And then there's also the heirloom quality that I want for anything that I shell out that much money for.

That being said, I think it would be pimping to put on a black t-shirt, jeans, and rock the lange sohne! I think it's kind of a "f**k the world" thing, and it makes the watch stand out all the more, IMO.

Oh yeah, I'm a young 35 (post hardcore band, chucks and jeans.)
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Never to a private game, of course. I don't mind wearing it into the high limit room at a big casino. I used to be a lot more paranoid until I bought my wife her engagement ring, and realized that women are walking around with more money on their fingers than some people make in a year. A combination of street smarts and homeowners insurance is mandated.

Also, one thing about this type of watch is that 99% of would-be thieves have no clue what it's really worth. If it's not covered in diamonds and/or has a rolex crown on it, they could care less. Idiots.

The Lange1 Timezones go from 27k - 37k. A good link with all the metals/bands/options is here. I think the rose gold might actually be the best looking: http://www.timeimports.com/designer-...1-548p1674.htm

The Patek Calatrava Travel time goes from 21k - 37k: http://www.timeimports.com/designer-...-Time-c418.htm
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It's a matter of audience. If you want to impress people with taste, you bust out a Patek, Lange, etc.
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Of course you always have to be careful. But, as I alluded to earlier, there are plenty of women walking around with jewelry on worth as much or more. Some the jewelry (i.e. engagement rings) is worn 24/7 in all locations, at all times.

I understand the concerns. . . I come from a different background than many people I now associate with. I was blown away by how frequently they wear around tens (or even hundreds) of thousands in jewelry and other possessions.

I guess what I'm saying is that I won't be making any of my purchasing decisions out of fear.
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We must move in different circles.

That being said, I would never wear anything, particularly anything that expensive, that didn't bring me a great deal of personal enjoyment.
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"When you meet a potential business partner, you don't see his house. You don't see his car, his wife, his diplomas. You see his watch, his shoes, his clothes."

I suppose being a business owner has made me more aware of first impressions. If you don't notice these things, that's fine. . . I never did either until recently.

But, trust me, there are people who do. Ladies, for one, and more than you would think. Many successful men are going to notice, as well. . . . In short, I've realized that the exact people I want to notice are the people who do notice.

Besides, as I posted previously, this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money.
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". . . this watch is for me and about me. I'm looking to add something to my family legacy. . . a timepiece that will be passed down from my son to his son and so on. My family never had that, and I'd like to start the tradition. Otherwise, I'd probably just save the money."

Wow, you're right. The above quote DOES make me sound like an attention whore! </sarcasm>

The two watches are the Patek and the Lange. Read the thread. . . .

There's a huge difference between wanting to look sharp and make an impression, and craving attention. In fact, the watches I'm considering are chosen specifically because they are elegant, classic, and of a timeless style unlikely to go out of fashion generations down the road. If I was "craving attention", I'd be looking at an iced-out hubcap that all the young guys seem to be wearing these days.

It's a subtle distinction, so maybe it's lost on you. You seem pretty sure of the statement "doesn't really matter to anyone." That's like saying a fine bottle of wine doesn't matter to anyone, or that a signed first edition Hemingway doesn't matter to anyone. That kind of broad generalization is what smacks of youthful niavete, and, frankly, it's not true.

EDIT: You are obviously a troll for hopping into a watch thread where people are discussing their favorite watches, and posting about how stupid it is to get a nice watch. Go away.
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Yes. In your experience.

It's a good thing you're comfortable pushing your reality onto other people.

Does arrogance matter in your world as well? I hope for your sake it does, because you have it in abundance.

Last communication with the troll.
First off, Sly Caveat, deleted posts still go out in email.

Just to be clear: the reason why I want to purchase a fine watch is for my own personal enjoyment as well as to introduce an heirloom into my family, first and foremost. Almost every single post had something along the lines of "I'm buying it for me." Not that it's anyone's business anyhow.

If you reread my posts, you'll see that the whole "impressing people" bit came into context when talking about thugs not necessarily marking me because they wouldn't necessarily recognize the watch as being high end. It spiraled from there into a sidetracked (and pointless) discussion about who is impressed by high end watches.

That being said, I do think there are certain people who are impressed by a nice watch. . . many of them in this very thread. Not "bling bling" impressed, but impressed that the wearer has taste and style to select not only a brand, but a specific model, complication, etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having an interest in fine watches, and sharing that interest with other. I know many guys that are the same way, and we talk about watches all the time, even going to local trade shows, etc. This has all been a bit of a revelation to me; I didn't even know what a Patek was until a couple years ago. . . like most people, Rolex was all I knew.

If you take my remarks in context, starting from the beginning, I've tried to make it clear why I want the watch. Judging from the interest in this thread on some of the JLC's and IWC's, I'm not alone in my appreciation of fine watches and the desire to own one for my own personal satisfaction.

But really, even if you think I want to buy it just to show that I have 40k in disposable income and that I'm some wealthy prick, what the f*** business is it of yours anyhow? Are we judging people in this thread, or talking about watches?!?

Sorry for the defensive rant, but you guys don't know me or even the first thing about me. Quit being such judgmental pricks.
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