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Originally Posted by sjp507
It really would help if you actually read it instead of getting hot under the collar and going straight into rebuke.
I was in the market for comfortable, over ear, noise cancelling headphones. I don't find any earbuds comfortable and they would only really be used for plane journeys and when I was at the poker table. Don't really get why you would want to use them all the time at home but each to their own.
So, given the above criteria I tried everything I could reasonably find in the range. I have no prior allegiance with Bose, never owned anything from them before, my choice was based purely on what I tested and found to be the best.
The QC15's came out only a couple months ago and given your obvious ongoing hatred for Bose it seems unlikely to me that you've tried them but if you have ok. I tried along with these the Sennheiser pxc-300 and 450, some $200 more expensive Sony's, a couple of Denon ones and I think an Audiotechnica. I haven't tried the Beyer one's you've got but from the reviews I can find they seem to have limited real noise reduction and are not really that much cheaper given that the value is had in having something that does exactly the job I want it to, if I wasn't bothered I'd use the iphone standard ones lol
Like I said, I can't speak for the entire range and no doubt in general you're probably right but in my experience of buying something catered to my needs they are perfect and I couldn't be happier. Btw I don't think owning Bose or having big earphones are cool, if anything it's a bit embarrassing.
I didn't mean to come off as some kind of audio snob, especially since I'm really not one at all. It's just very frustrating when people give opinions about products and I don't even know what they are really trying to say.
Saying things like "the sennheisers were less comfortable" or whatever, is really tough to figure out because we have no idea what model you're talking about, nor even what was uncomfortable about them. You stated very definitively that QC15's were the best on the market for your use, but you didn't even tell us what you had compared them against.
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The whole Bose thing reminds me of HP Printers. When I was in college, I worked as a consultant for different camera companies selling photo printers inside of high traffic electronics stores. I trained staff, but mainly I just printed pictures for customers on weekends and talked to them about printing photos. HP was the biggest selling photo printer by a huge margin. They had excellent marketing, they were the first company with those card readers on the printer, they were the biggest name, they had everything going for them. But they also were the most expensive, had the most expensive ink, and weren't all that great of quality to begin with.
The reason it reminds me so much of it, was that if you spoke to me in the store, and I printed you a picture on an HP printer. You would look at it, think it looked good, and be ready to go on your way. But if I took the time to show you what the equivalent Canon/Epson would do, you would very rarely ever purchase the HP. Headphones are the same way. If you hand me some QC15's, and don't let me listen to anything else for the rest of the day, I'm not going to complain about them. They're good looking, comfortable, headphones. But if I give you something to immediately compare them to, you are likely to be disappointed.
The same thing happened in regards to reviews in magazines. Reviews that would come from big companies not geared towards photo work, would give HP great reviews based on their name recognition, "features", looks, etc. But when any kind of serious review came from any real source it would always be much worse. Bose basically does the same thing. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a generally positive review from a magazine that reviews tons of stuff. But anytime you talk to a professional, or read a review on a site geared towards audio/music quality, they are basically a complete non option.
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If you are happy with your purchase, that's really great. It's not like Bose is a product known to break down, or catch on fire or something. But you did state in an earlier post why Bose gets hate on this board, and it's generally because they aren't viewed as being on the same level as other equivalent products from other companies. This isn't just my opinion, but is the general opinion of pretty much anyone I know who knows anything about audio quality. If you are going to state that the QC15's are the best on the market, I'm obviously going to comment if I disagree, since so many people on this board have used this thread to specifically make purchases.
Last edited by ZBTHorton; 11-25-2009 at 11:43 PM.