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10-06-2009, 05:25 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Standing on the shore
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Re: Fly fishing
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Originally Posted by M2d
I'll take a smallmouth fight over a trout fight any day. once I figured out that smallies were int the water, i'd have cut down to a 2x or 3x and put on a beadhead wooly bugger.
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This is a different matter (and I agree, BTW). I was focused on trout, though, so I finally thought I'd broken through, only to be disappointed.
Your statement reminds me of when I was throwing spinners with a very light spin outfit at Hamilton Branch in Lake Almanor a couple of years ago. The difference between a 14" smallmouth and a 12" rainbow is like night and day.
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as you found out, there's a fine line between enough slack to get a good drift and too much slack to make a good hookset. keeping your rod tip low helps some. throwing a short line helps, too, but you have to work on your stealth wading skills to get close to the fish.
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I don't wade, so tough to be stealthy. In particular, last weekend (Merced River) is low and gin-clear, so getting close would be tough.
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10-07-2009, 11:21 AM
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#62
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
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Re: Fly fishing
lots of elk around jasper park. especially around the lodge. most times they are easy to find.
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10-08-2009, 10:46 AM
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#63
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
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Re: Fly fishing
This thread is making me want to fish. Parents are building a place on the ski mountain in Durango and there is so much fishing there. I am going to take a week next summer and probably backpack and fly fish the whole time.
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10-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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#64
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Standing on the shore
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Re: Fly fishing
I seem to always get the bug when the end of the year rolls around, assuring that I get minimum value out of the fishing license. I think I bought it this year in August.
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10-09-2009, 04:56 PM
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#65
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
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Re: Fly fishing
this is the time of year the big browns move up river to spawn. they are aggressive and easier to catch. below the dams on the missouri river is good for browns up to ten pounds.
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10-25-2009, 08:06 PM
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#66
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Re: Fly fishing
So, a couple of things:
- Went back to the river, same place, just outside of Yosemite. We had a big storm roll through about two weeks ago where it rained in the Bay Area for pretty much a solid 24 hours. I was shocked how much higher the level of the river was. Also, a bonus for park visitors because all of the waterfalls were running!
- I fished for a couple of hours on Saturday and Sunday morning, and actually managed a fish each day! I'd like to focus on process and not be results-oriented  so the question I have is this: There was no hatch going on, but I was prospecting with a caddis dry fly because I know they are all over the river, especially at this time of year.
Each time I hooked up, I'd cast across current, and as the line straightened out downstream and I started stripping line in to recast, the fish hit the fly...this had to be slightly below the surface because I did not see either strike. This means I should be using some kind of caddis-imitating wet fly, correct?
Anyway, here's the smaller of the two:
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10-25-2009, 10:29 PM
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#67
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
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Re: Fly fishing
rainbows especially like to follow a fly and hit it after it straightens out in the current. caddis move around on the water so it worked for you. but perhaps you should have been casting wets or nymphs.
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10-26-2009, 02:49 AM
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#68
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: california
Posts: 5,277
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Re: Fly fishing
beautiful bow. did you fish much after those fish? they could have been on emergers because the full hatch hadn't yet started.
they could have also been on boatmen, which kinda look like caddis and like to hang in the surface film area.
or, fish being fish, they could have been just screwing with you.
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10-26-2009, 12:25 PM
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#69
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Re: Fly fishing
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Originally Posted by M2d
beautiful bow. did you fish much after those fish? they could have been on emergers because the full hatch hadn't yet started.
they could have also been on boatmen, which kinda look like caddis and like to hang in the surface film area.
or, fish being fish, they could have been just screwing with you.
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First day, I tried about 15-20 minutes more and then switched to a couple of different nymphs with no success.
Second day, I tried for about 15 mins more and then started moving upstream. In particular, I wanted to try this spot before the sun hit it...I tried to be as stealthy as possible (heh), but didn't even see any fish here.
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10-26-2009, 01:52 PM
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#70
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
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Re: Fly fishing
there is fish along the far bank in that run that is shaded.
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11-11-2009, 05:38 PM
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#71
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Standing on the shore
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Re: Fly fishing
Running up to Lake Tahoe this weekend to generally kick back, gamble a little, and if I work up the gumption, I'll run over to the West Carson River. I've been a little sore-throaty the last couple of days, so we'll see.
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11-17-2009, 02:59 PM
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#72
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Standing on the shore
Posts: 10,806
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Re: Fly fishing
Blah-de-blah update this time. There is quite a bit of snow on the ground already, and the water in the West fork is quite low. I had to head down the valley from the 89-88 interchange to not have to tramp through a little bit of snow to get to the water.
I had to sneak around pocket water, and had made < 10 casts when I suffered some equipment failure...if you look at the picture upthread, you will see a very old Shakespeare fiberglass fly rod.
The ferrule is shot, so about 25 years ago, my dad cut a groove into the male side and placed a little rubber washer over it to create enough friction to hold the rod together. That washer finally disintegrated, and I found it difficult to continue with a rod that is > 75% likely to come apart on the forward cast.
ETA: Props to my wife for getting me a high-octane vest for a birthday gift! I feel a little sheepish going out in public with some gear that far exceeds my ability, but it sure beats throwing everything into an old fanny pack which is what I'd been doing.
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11-17-2009, 08:33 PM
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#73
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
Posts: 9,076
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Re: Fly fishing
nowadays even the cheapest graphite rods are far superior and much easier to cast than an old fiberglass rod. up grade if you like fly fishing. try cabelas for a package deal.
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11-18-2009, 06:02 PM
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#74
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Standing on the shore
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Re: Fly fishing
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Originally Posted by Ray Zee
nowadays even the cheapest graphite rods are far superior and much easier to cast than an old fiberglass rod. up grade if you like fly fishing. try cabelas for a package deal.
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I think I will do just that, after scouring several websites! Gotta love buying gear!
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11-18-2009, 11:21 PM
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#75
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: montana usa
Posts: 9,076
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Re: Fly fishing
get a nine foot rod for a five weight line for trout fishing from boats and relatively open areas. got to eight foot for more brushy area where you have to carry your rod around in the bushes alot.
use a nine foot tapered leader 4x(6 lb. test) with a nail knot to your line. and add tippets to make it smaller or cut it back to make it larger x. add and subtract tippets with a surgeon knot and one leader will last a long time.
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