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FINALLY, Vitor stops cheating. U.S hero Chris Weidman beats him silly. MMA/Fightin' Thread

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05-22-2015 , 12:22 AM

#176

Thug Bubbles

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http://espn.uol.com.br/noticia/51172...ampeao-chocado

Google chrome has a translate option, but basically it breaks down like this

Reporter: Chris, Vitor's testosterone was at 1200
Chris: The ****? Is that legal?
Reporter: Yeah, but it may have been artificially enhanced
Chris: Well he's right over there. Tell Vitor what you just told me.
Reporter: Vitor, why is your test at 1200?
Vitor: I have hypogonadism. I have naturally low testosterone.

Kinda hilarious.

05-22-2015 , 01:25 AM

#177

Joss

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Having even normal levels of testosterone after years of steroid use and the rigors of training camp would be pretty crazy. Now Vitor's at 1200? Lol drug testing. Thank God we cleaned up the sport.

05-22-2015 , 01:53 AM

#178

WateryBoil

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i want to see a trtroided vitor so much more than a non-version

05-22-2015 , 02:24 AM

#179

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joss

Having even normal levels of testosterone after years of steroid use and the rigors of training camp would be pretty crazy. Now Vitor's at 1200? Lol drug testing. Thank God we cleaned up the sport.

I'd actually not considered this. When using TRT for so long and then stopping, your normal testosterone count plummets because production is stunted your body becomes used to being propped up by the supplemental T. Adding on to that like you say the normal hit due to breaking down the body constantly in camp. For him to show those kinds of numbers naturally at 38 is ludicrous!

05-22-2015 , 02:25 AM

#180

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil

i want to see a trtroided vitor so much more than a non-version

as long as he doesnt win...

05-22-2015 , 02:31 AM

#181

willie

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that aleks picture.....

as far as GOT.....he looks like Reek straight out of brainwashing camp.

i know one thing though, he'd be a nightmare prisoner. good luck whoever wants to throw hands with that animal.

05-22-2015 , 02:39 AM

#182

Daddy Warbucks

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

as long as he doesnt win...

Even if he wins he can't win...

05-22-2015 , 02:40 AM

#183

kingofcool

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Originally Posted by willie

I'm shocked Aleksander is only 33.

05-22-2015 , 04:29 AM

#184

Everlastrr

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Originally Posted by kingofcool

I'm shocked Aleksander is only 33.

bejeezus

05-22-2015 , 10:52 AM

#185

Codecci

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let the crazy man juice you damn nits

btw, is it possible to evaluate how much juice exactly helps? if 20 year old clean vitor and 40 year old juiced up vitor fought and had exact same skill-set and weight, who wins?

05-22-2015 , 10:57 AM

#186

PartyGirlUK

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Wow. Pretty shocking Vitor before and after photos:

Spoiler:

05-22-2015 , 10:58 AM

#187

Phresh

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That's the point though, your skill set can develop way faster because you're recovering quicker in between training and can go longer/harder, etc. It translates to skills. Do you think CC would've beat me nearly as bad without his juice? Nah. I'm all natural so I gassed within 30 seconds like a real man.

05-22-2015 , 11:02 AM

#188

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Look at Vitor's record when he was just juicing at a normal level ... then look at it when he had an exemption and took unlimited T.

05-22-2015 , 11:37 AM

#189

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"The fighters aren't thrilled about it," White told Power 106 Los Angeles Wednesday. "I don't know, man. These guys don't get it. These guys are short-sighted sometimes. It's good for the industry. It's good for everybody. You want to have a deal like this.

what a pig.

Yeah im sure donald cerrone is shortsighted when he knows hes gonna make 60k less per fight until he retires

05-22-2015 , 11:41 AM

#190

Phresh

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This has definitely left a foul taste in my mouth towards the UFC. It really sucks.

05-22-2015 , 11:50 AM

#191

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good for everybody = good for the ufc's image / $

ZzZz

no ****s was given if the deal would be good for fighters today, in 5 years or in 10.

05-22-2015 , 11:51 AM

#192

kingofcool

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If it is so good for the industry, pay the fighters more money.

05-22-2015 , 05:44 PM

#193

Thug Bubbles

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

what a pig.

Yeah im sure donald cerrone is shortsighted when he knows hes gonna make 60k less per fight until he retires

In his defense, if something like this deal (which is similar to other major sports) actually increases popularity/acceptance of the sport, it is better for the fighters. But I don't think people care about uniforms. They care about being entertained. The real ****ed up thing is 40% of the Reebok money going to the UFC.

05-22-2015 , 06:03 PM

#194

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

what a pig.

Yeah im sure donald cerrone is shortsighted when he knows hes gonna make 60k less per fight until he retires

It's hilarious because he always harps on fighters fighting as much as possible and taking any opporuntity they can get because their window in this business is so short. lolololol.

05-22-2015 , 06:06 PM

#195

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So are peoples opinions on Weidmans super low levels? I don't know enough about it otherwise, but some people claiming that his T/E ratio is a big red flag. Then again they probably don't know enough either.

05-22-2015 , 06:30 PM

#196

Codecci

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You really think someone like Weidman doesn't use anything illegal? Seems pretty dumb at that level to not use...

05-22-2015 , 07:24 PM

#197

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Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Its about normal for what i'd assume somebody going through a rigorous training camp would be. His total T didn't move though, just his estrogen lowered. I don't think thats really that big, he could be using estrogen suppressors i guess but i'm not sure if that would really make a difference to performance if his T is still super low. I don't think they're banned either (and if not my guess would be for that reason)

05-22-2015 , 07:34 PM

#198

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Vitor looking in great shape, but noticably smaller.

05-22-2015 , 07:34 PM

#199

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HOLY **** weidman just called out Vitor's 1200 score hahahahaha

05-22-2015 , 07:38 PM

#200

Joss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

It's hilarious because he always harps on fighters fighting as much as possible and taking any opporuntity they can get because their window in this business is so short. lolololol.

A lot of fighters have made similar statements and it doesn't really bother me. I assume what they really mean is, "I'm losing a lot of money but I work for a vindictive boss so I'm going to tack on this BS."

The only other way to publicly talk about how much money they are losing is to call out the UFC which a lot of guys understandably don't want to do.

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