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Originally Posted by LuckyfishZ
Thanx, do you work in a wine related profession? The amount of knowledge you have are deep.
Does the shape of a glass make a lot of difference ? And what kind wines need decanting ?
Do you have any recommendation for red wine $ 40 ~ 60 range ? ( willing to spend up to $100 if it's really really good. ) I live in Canada.
My personal favorite so far is Amarone, which is why I wanted to try another Italian wine. A friend of mine highly recommended Chambolle Musigny. I tried it but wasn't very impressed. I guess my taste is not developed enough to appreicate it yet.
hmm, where to begin. I work on the retail side of the biz right now and for the foreseeable future. My knowledge has more come from really wanting to learn about wine and various areas of the world
Glasses do make a fairly big difference, and was noted by canuck, its more wise to spend the money on good stemware rather then a decanter. For me, all of my decanters are purely functional and i've yet to spend over $40 on one. Hell, I've even used vases that I've cleaned in a pinch.
What I would suggest for starting out is getting yourself a set of burgundy/pinot glasses for nebbiolo, barbera, and pinot noir. THe bowl shape of the glass and the tapering inwards allows for air to hit the surface and then concentrate the aromas. Since those grapes generally are more delicate and lead to a variety of aromatics, they want to concentrate the aromas
You should also get a set of Bordeaux stems. This will cover you for basically every other red wine. Its a broad brush and there are specific glasses for syrah, brunello, and tempranillo but that doesn't really need to be explored all too much, and quite frankly outside of a tempranillo glass, the other glasses I mentioned didn't really add too much to the wines. Syrah and Brunello glasses are essentially bordeaux stems that are either slightly bigger or minutely smaller
for whites I prefer chardonnay glasses in general. I also uses chardonnay glasses for champagne and other bubblies because I like to smell the aromatics and unless you are drinking older champagne, the bubbles will be more then fine in a chard glass
i won't get into specific recs as I don't know what your LCBO carries off hand and what the prices are. I do know that there is a monthly release schedule for the LCBO, so if you ever have any questions about what to buy for putting down, don't hesitate to put out what is on the release list that is in that price range
With trying burgundy like you did with chambolle, I'd say that you will have to try a ton of different wines. The thing is, burgundy is extremely different then amarone, so its hard to know where to start you at with burgundy. I'd also say that you should try to find some burgs with a bit of age on them. The 02s are still pretty tight and I'd hold off on the 05s and 06s for a very long time, but the 01s, 00s, and 07s are all very nice and hold to the hierarchies that exist in burgundy. What I mean by that is that a village wine won't really be competing with a top 1er and a quality Grand Cru will still be "better" than a good 1er. Those vintages that I just mentioned also show off the individual terroirs extremely well and can start to give you a sense of place in burgundy
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Originally Posted by AAismyfriend
Also, if you are willing to venture outside of italy, I suspect you may like some Rhone wines. You may want to check out some of the JL Chave/M Chapoutier's more affordable options (i.e. St-Josesph) or check out some Chateauneuf de Pape (Domaine Pegau, vieux telegraphe, beaucastel). These wines will also require some decanting assuming they are fairly young.
This is great advice. I would say that the negociant arm of chave has disappointed me tbh. More that the negociant wines from chave have come across as fairly international in style rather then the traditional style that the domaine is well known for.
For the northern rhone, one producer that I would highly reccomend checking out is Vincent Paris. He's situated in Cornas and the terroir that he gets his fruit from is very impressive. His vineyards essentially sit real close to Alain Voge and Noel Verset and IIRC one of his vineyards is right next to Clape. So, yea, extremely good terroir, and all of his wines are at great prices. I know that the 07 Granit 30 (this is the slope degree) generally retails around $35 and the Granit 60 retails for around 50. He also makes a really good St Joseph that goes for under $25