So I'm resizing that to 80x80?

Lol no no.

Can I have until tomorrow? Would like to do some research...

You can have as long as you want, I already started the 1 month countdown haha.

Haha ok fair enough.

It was announced as a majority decision by Buffer in the cage because nobody (on that final card) gave it to McCall so there wasn't anything to split. He might have accidentally said 29-28 McCall but it was 29-29 Draw. The issue seems to be what you said, it was transferred/calculated over to the final card wrong.

yeah iirc i think buffer said 29-28 mccall, 29-28 johnson, and 29-28 making the winner by majority decision johnson (which with those scores should be split decision, with the score card he should have read a majority decision, and the truth is a majority draw... lololol?)

but dont let it go to judges if you want the scores to be read wrong!!@

I just want to say I'm glad I didn't get to bet McCall. The 10-9 system is like what one would think up if you wanted to create these situations. Standard riggery.

the only way to have draws are if there's 10 8 rds or points taken away right? There can't be a 10 10 rd correct

you can give 10/10 , theyre rarely given in mma tho ( a judge did score a 10/10 round in the mccall fight )

oh ok, didn't think you could....thanks

Yea you are right. So many mess ups tonight haha. Not only did the judges mess up by not giving mccall a 10-8 in the 3rd round, the commissioner messed up tallying up the score and Buffer messed up reading and the commissioner card and calling it a Majority decision when it was a split decision.

10/9 system can work for MMA, but if you don't give out 10/10 and 10/8 rounds more liberally in 3 rounds fights it can go bad to often.

Like seriously how can you say the amount of damage Mccall dished out in round 3= amount of damage Johnson dished out in round 1 or 2

A majority decision is the same as a split decision.

I dont think 109 is suited to 3 round fights. There could be two close rounds and one extremely dominant and the fight would be at best a draw even if one guy clearly won. Speaking statistically, there's too much potential relevance on the scoring of a single round in each judges final determination of who won the fight. It creates extra volatility in fights that otherwise wouldn't be questionable

You could also argue that it strongly encourages fighters to win individual rounds and not over exert unless they're sure the fight will go to decision, which is a big problem in 3 round fights. Right now the incompetence of the judges and maybe poor cardio are the only strong influence on fighters to try to finish fights

Does anyone know how online sportsbooks handled bets on this? What about live books? If some people cashed in their winning Johnson tickets right after the fight, do they get their money but then others won't get paid later?

I ask because aejones and I had a bet on the fight(I won't say who had what side) and we agreed to handle it however sportsbooks were handling it.

split = two judges for the winner, one judge for the loser
majority = two judges for the winner, one draw

ofc, both are a win... but there is a difference imo

I am wondering this too.

I know a similar thing happened to the Iowa Caucus for GOP 2012 on Intrade. Romney was declared the winner that night but after a 2 months it was later re-calculated and later declared Santorum as the winner of the Caucus.

Intrade settled the bet as if Romney won.

Though you can't really compare the two as the timeline for correction is so great. Honestly though in my opinion I would nullify the bet between you two. As for live sports books, I have no clue. They are in a tough situation.

Yea I am confused to, because I know if a ruling is overturned later its whatever was official that night, but tonight it was almost right away over turned because of a judging error...

Clearly UFC wanted MM to win for obvious reasons. They tried to say he won anyway, somehow got exposed maybe by the judges themselves, and still will never be accountable because they can carelessly claim some nonsensical error involving a step in the scoring process which includes recopying judge score cards, presumably only to introduce reasonable cause for "mistakes". An example of many ways the UFC facilitate the fruition of their "master plan".

Immoral people with an empire and no oversight, don't know why I'm always surprised

AJ what were your feelings towards people who posted that the RNG was rigged in online poker? before Black Friday obviously.

Do we have to hear this **** from you every time someone you cheer for loses? Fedor got his ass kicked three times in Strikeforce without some massive conspiracy. The entire world is not rigged against you. You are just quite often wrong.

You've obviously never seen the Seattle Pittsburg superbowl

Bout 0% chance

For something like a mini conspiracy in a fight org owned by a man with powerful mob connections, perhaps 10%? Maybe a lot more or less, but clearly worth posting when it's this easy

Referee was probably in on it too ay? My favorite part was when McCall gets hit with a nut shot, he has no angle to deny it happened, McCall grabs his balls and Johnston acknowledges and backs off and taps the glove, ref just stands there and refuses to accept the blow landed despite all.

I don't generally find your posts of great interest myself, and accordingly choose not to comment. I don't imagine I'm the only person in this thread who enjoys random and severe deviation from the generic flow of discussion. Clearly this is very upsetting for you. I'm sure you know there is a "block" function.