Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Rootin Tootin Guns volume 3 Rootin Tootin Guns volume 3

10-20-2010 , 07:08 PM
I don't know if it's volume 3 or 2 so get over it.


I'd like to talk about a few guns I have and their popularity/worth. My dad died a month ago and in the future I'll be selling some of his guns for his wife.

I have a Winchester model 54 in 22 Hornet. When I saw it the first thing I thought was "I hope I can get $300 bucks for it". Now I see this is a popular caliber on a desirable rifle. Why is that? Is this a gun for praire dogs or what?

The next is one that real weird. It's' called a Beretta 87bb/lb. When I google it one of the first things I see is the exact picture of it. But i can't seem to find anyone for sale or any recent sales. Why is it so hard to find? Is there something special about this one or is it just as common/rare as a 87bb?

Lastly just to brag - I just bought a H&K P30 with NS in 40. Wow what a sweet gun. It has 3 different straps that allow you to fit your hand better. The decocker is just to the left of the hammer not to be confused with the slide release or anything else.

Ok, So please comment on the above guns or tell me about yours and how you came across them!
12-02-2010 , 02:36 PM
Went to the range the other day. Fired a friend's Sig Sauer (I think it was a P226.) Good gun, but I thought the trigger pull was unnecessarily long (although they do make models, with a shorter trigger pull, IIRC). Another friend had a Beretta 92 which seemed to have a better trigger.
12-02-2010 , 05:40 PM
My dad just gave me an old baby browning .25 and a vv (1920s) old .38 revovler that I still have to do research on. the browning is a funny little gun, but will rip the skin between your thumb and index due to the size and chamber kick.
12-03-2010 , 07:51 PM
I have a p239 Sig Sauer .40 and a Kimber Ultra CDP II .45 Both nice guns
12-03-2010 , 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gusmahler
Went to the range the other day. Fired a friend's Sig Sauer (I think it was a P226.) Good gun, but I thought the trigger pull was unnecessarily long (although they do make models, with a shorter trigger pull, IIRC). Another friend had a Beretta 92 which seemed to have a better trigger.
Many people like the long trigger pull on the first round. The mindset is if it went off I really meant for it to go off. When people are shooting targets etc with the DA/SA they tend to **** it on the first round so they never deal with the long pull.

For the people who really heate it usually go for the DAO (double action only) which is a shorter trigger pull on first but longer on the rest.

There are some LE agencies who like this idea but don't like the ease of the pull so they buy enough and get compaines to justify making something special.

As an example Glock made for New York a stronger DAO trigger pull. I think it went from 5.5 to about a 10lb continuos pull. That's not something I want but it was favorable to the powers that be up there.

The newest latest and greatest is a DAO LEM pull. The way I understand it is it's a DAO with a lessor pull after the first round.
12-03-2010 , 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crdjeep
I have a p239 Sig Sauer .40 and a Kimber Ultra CDP II .45 Both nice guns
Both nice guns. I love Kimbers but I don't want to carry one as I'm scared of cocked and locked even though I know it's safe
12-07-2010 , 09:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rnr_Rnr_Hobgoblin
Both nice guns. I love Kimbers but I don't want to carry one as I'm scared of cocked and locked even though I know it's safe
Yeah , the dealer was like "yeah, when you carry it you have it cocked but with the safety on" ME " yeah i'll just keep it in the box it came in"
12-07-2010 , 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gusmahler
Went to the range the other day. Fired a friend's Sig Sauer (I think it was a P226.) Good gun, but I thought the trigger pull was unnecessarily long (although they do make models, with a shorter trigger pull, IIRC). Another friend had a Beretta 92 which seemed to have a better trigger.
what's a trigger job these days, hundred bucks or less if you shop around.
12-08-2010 , 04:18 AM
each and every gun fills a place and you need to think about what that place is for you.
then decide whether you want to improve it or leave it as it is.

recently i put crimson trace laser grips on my two carry guns i tote around the most. time has come when i feel they will help in the right spot to save me if necessary.
12-08-2010 , 12:54 PM
in before 'whats with you americans and guns?'

anyone here into IDPA or IPSC? my dad and brother are both master level shooters (i dont know what the equivalent is in USPSA), but i some how have never shot a match, despite doing drills with them at the range for years.

gusmahler,

is there anything specific you liked about the beretta trigger? mostly opinion (that i've heard) is the other way round on sigs vs berettas, since berettas are pretty notorious for their pull. im pretty undecided but havent shot the 92 a bunch. is there anything you can pinpoint?
12-08-2010 , 06:36 PM
Haven't fired my Five-Seven in 6 months...
12-08-2010 , 07:53 PM
anything interesting abt the 5-7 you wanna share?
12-08-2010 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Zee
each and every gun fills a place and you need to think about what that place is for you.
then decide whether you want to improve it or leave it as it is.

recently i put crimson trace laser grips on my two carry guns i tote around the most. time has come when i feel they will help in the right spot to save me if necessary.
i worked for them when they did the Ducks unlimited Festival in town. I'd put in about 10 hours and they'd give me any laser i wanted. Back then if you wanted one for a Glock you had to send them your gun for 6 weeks. It was $600 10 years ago. I loved those lasers. There's them and everyone else.
12-09-2010 , 01:42 AM
yea now they are just a couple hundred a piece for the lasers. and really improved.
12-12-2010 , 11:04 AM
When my grandfather passed in 1987 I was left with one of his rifles. At the time, I was just an 8 year old and I did not even know the rifle was mine until I bought my home in 2002. My mother gave me the gun as a house warming gift. Recently, on a whim, I took it out of the closet and pondered the gun. For all of these years I thought it was nothing more than an air rifle or bb gun. Turns out it is a glenfield 30a (30-30 lever action). I looked up the serial number on a collectors site and found out the gun was manufactured in 1976.

Anyway, a few weeks after I got the rifle, I was visiting mom at her place and she said "I have this old ammunition box that was your grandpas if you want to take it home with you. It has some old bullets and whatnot in it be careful blah blah..." Gracious to have anything of his, I brought it home and placed it in my basement.

The re-discovery of the rifle led me to explore the contents of the ammo box and yesterday I went downstairs and opened it up. Inside, wrapped in what are no doubt old work socks of my grandpas is a Hawes Firearm Western Marshal .357 and a Colt Single Action Frontier Scout 22LR. I was shocked and stunned when I found these guns. I'm trying to find out how old they are.

Basically, after writing a book here, I'm trying to ask if there is anywhere I can look up the serial numbers for these models to see when they were made? I tried google as it worked with the rifle but I'm having a harder time with the two pistols.

A friend of mine from high school is a gunsmith so the plan is to have him give all 3 guns a once-over to make them range ready.
12-12-2010 , 11:42 PM
Quote:
I'm trying to ask if there is anywhere I can look up the serial numbers for these models to see when they were made?
I don't have a definitive answer for you but a couple of options would be to contact the manufacturers if they are still in business or ask how to track down the info in the General Firearms Discussion forum on AR15.com. Seems like someone there always has a good answer. Maybe you can find someone with a copy of The Blue Book of Gun Values and have them look it up.

It also looks like you can throw the serial numbers up on something like answers.com and someone will answer it.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_year_...number_230545F

Last edited by Heya; 12-12-2010 at 11:52 PM.
12-15-2010 , 01:02 AM
I'm new to this thread, but participate in discussions on many other gun sites.

I enjoy shooting at ranges, but mostly out in the woods in Northern CA. Have my CCW and usually carry a .45.
My wife never shot a gun before we met, but now will do so occasionally and can competently operate one.

My current guns are:
1) Kimber 1911 .45
2) Sig P232 .380 stainless
3) Mossberg .22 rifle with scope
4) Mossberg 500 pump shotty (for skeet and general fun)
5) AR15 in .223 - Del Ton Upper, Spikes Lower, Tan Magpul stock, grip, etc, Millet DMS 1-4x tactical scope (just finished building it)

Would like to pick up another handgun to keep at the office, a nice O/U shotgun and bolt action rifle.
12-16-2010 , 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moosehog
I'm new to this thread, but participate in discussions on many other gun sites.

I enjoy shooting at ranges, but mostly out in the woods in Northern CA. Have my CCW and usually carry a .45.
My wife never shot a gun before we met, but now will do so occasionally and can competently operate one.

My current guns are:
1) Kimber 1911 .45
2) Sig P232 .380 stainless
3) Mossberg .22 rifle with scope
4) Mossberg 500 pump shotty (for skeet and general fun)
5) AR15 in .223 - Del Ton Upper, Spikes Lower, Tan Magpul stock, grip, etc, Millet DMS 1-4x tactical scope (just finished building it)

Would like to pick up another handgun to keep at the office, a nice O/U shotgun and bolt action rifle.
You have the MOE handguard I'm guessing? Do they have a tight fit or do they have a little bit of play in them like a standard CAR handguard? Which stock did you get? Any play in it?
12-16-2010 , 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Zee
each and every gun fills a place and you need to think about what that place is for you.
then decide whether you want to improve it or leave it as it is.

recently i put crimson trace laser grips on my two carry guns i tote around the most. time has come when i feel they will help in the right spot to save me if necessary.
Did you consider/look at the vridian green? Interested in hearing any thoughts between crimson trace & vridian. I definitely know the vridian costs a little more.

Thanks.
12-17-2010 , 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heya
You have the MOE handguard I'm guessing? Do they have a tight fit or do they have a little bit of play in them like a standard CAR handguard? Which stock did you get? Any play in it?
Yes, MOE handguard. Has a bit of play. The stock is also darth earth MOE. Its plastic, but solid.

I was happy to put the AR together like I wanted for right about $1000 total, including optic, scope mount, and case.
12-18-2010 , 01:37 AM
Seriously guys? Where are the pictures?!
12-18-2010 , 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taso
Seriously guys? Where are the pictures?!
I have many but still too dumb to figure out how to post them here, PM me ur email addy and maybe u can hook me up?
12-18-2010 , 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taso
Seriously guys? Where are the pictures?!
My camera is returning from a trip to the Caribbean tomorrow. I'll get some up.
12-19-2010 , 12:36 AM
I only have one firearm right now, a Glock 19 Homeland Defender package I bought I think 2 years ago. From the bit of research I did at the time it seemed like a pretty good value with the light and the extra mag. Glock 19 is the compact 9mm but still feels full sized to me. Glock also offered this package in .40.



I really want an AR15 but the parts I want will cost a small fortune. This Noveske upper and this KAC lower. Very expensive but has every component and feature I'd ever want.
12-19-2010 , 03:08 AM
My Kimber .45



My Sig in the bedside safe:


      
m