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01-04-2011 , 08:06 PM
Just watched a doc on the bottled water industry called Tapped. Wow, what a scam and a waste bottled water is. I'll be sticking to my filtered tap water, tyvm.

Everyone needs to watch this imo.
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01-05-2011 , 11:22 AM
Years ago I saw a great documentary about stock brokers on wall street. It was broadcast here in germany and had german voiceover but it looked/sounded like an american production to me.

Basically it was a general portrait of trading at wall street but they followed 2 or 3 brokers in particular. Somewhen through the documentary one of those brokers was in some sort of deep **** while buying/selling oil (?) and things got quite crazy with him in fear of losing a ton of money cause he ****ed something up.

EDF, any idea what documentary that is and where to find it? Any other suggestions on the topic of stock brokers?

Help is much appreciated.
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01-06-2011 , 03:09 AM
I saw Exit Through the Gift Shop a few days ago. I'm not sure it lived up to all the hype.
It was interesting, kept my attention, and I have mad respect for the street art population...but it seemed somewhat contrived and unrealistic. Just my .02...
I also hate French accents lol.
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01-06-2011 , 11:33 PM
Watched an incredible doc the other night on the History Channel - The True Story of Black Hawk Down. The heroism these guys displayed just blows me away.

It's watchable on google video too

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...4573272072999#
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01-07-2011 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
I saw Exit Through the Gift Shop a few days ago. I'm not sure it lived up to all the hype.
It was interesting, kept my attention, and I have mad respect for the street art population...but it seemed somewhat contrived and unrealistic. Just my .02...
I also hate French accents lol.
I thought it was better than This Is Spinal Tap.
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01-08-2011 , 07:23 AM
Another recomendation for Restrepo, it really is incredibly good.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qtFPOxDMs4

The Devil and Daniel Johnston. Best music documentary I've ever seen.
Thank you very much for this recomendation, super good doc. And I listen to him every day now.
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01-08-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
Just watched a doc on the bottled water industry called Tapped. Wow, what a scam and a waste bottled water is. I'll be sticking to my filtered tap water, tyvm.

Everyone needs to watch this imo.
Uh, no it's not a scam. I've never been disappointed with a bottled water purchase. A scam is when you convince someone to pay you for something they don't want.

I don't like tap because it tastes like dirt. I had a Brita filter once but the water tasted like chemicals and ass.

I'll try to watch that doc though.
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01-08-2011 , 02:05 PM
Uh, yes it is a scam. Watch and find out why. I would compare it to the marketing campaign of Grey Goose. Also, you must live in a ****** area if your tap water tastes like dirt.
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01-08-2011 , 08:59 PM
Coca-Cola's Dasani water was/is pretty much a scam. Natural spring bottled water is nothing short of genius.

Also, unrelated to it being a scam, many US people will not have heard this before:

United Kingdom

Dasani was launched in the UK on 10 February 2004. The product launch was labelled "a disaster",[5] a "fiasco"[6] and a "PR catastrophe".[6]
Early advertisements referred to Dasani as "bottled spunk" or featured the tagline "can't live without spunk". These slogans were used seemingly oblivious to the fact that spunk is slang for semen in the UK.[7][8]
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01-09-2011 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
Uh, yes it is a scam. Watch and find out why. I would compare it to the marketing campaign of Grey Goose. Also, you must live in a ****** area if your tap water tastes like dirt.
So Grey Goose has clever marketing, and that makes it a scam? I still don't think you understand what a scam is.

I live in chicago, and the water definitely tastes like dirt, although it's not as bad as the water in Austin TX, the only other place I've lived.
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01-09-2011 , 05:10 PM
Saw Tapped today, it's on Hulu if anyone wants to waste 1.5 hours.

Cliffs:

- large corporations make lots of money, so they're evil!!!!!
- plastic is bad for the environment
- government regulators are incompetent at best and are basically bribed by the beverage companies not to do anything
- obviously, the solution is more government regulation, giving more power to said incompetent/unethical regulators
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01-09-2011 , 05:53 PM
I'm really getting annoyed at this technique many docs use:

In order to prove a point about something, they'll show a bunch of cutouts of newspaper headlines, where it's impossible to tell if it actually came from a real newspaper or if it was totally made up in photoshop or something, along with a rapid succession of sound bites which are supposed to be news reporters saying things similar to what the headlines say.

For example, in Tapped, they were interviewing some water industry PR guy named Shiny McWhiteteeth or whatever, who said he'd never heard of a bottled water recall. So then for the next 20 seconds they flash a bunch of images that resemble newspaper clippings saying things like "Bottled Water Recalled in ______" and play a bunch of random sound bites of people who sound like news reporters saying similar things. It's impossible to tell if any of it is real because they don't discuss the stories any further.

I don't know if there's a name for this technique but it's ****ing annoying and it always gives me the impression that the people making the doc aren't interested in thoughtful discussion, and they believe the viewer isn't smart enough to understand a thoughtful discussion.

I'm not ripping on Tapped specifically here because I've seen this many times.
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01-10-2011 , 12:18 AM
Wow, huge lol at bottled spunk. It blows my mind when things like that happen. How many dozens of people in the company saw that slogan before it went live?
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01-10-2011 , 05:06 AM
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Saw Tapped today, it's on Hulu if anyone wants to waste 1.5 hours.

Cliffs:

- large corporations make lots of money, so they're evil!!!!!
- plastic is bad for the environment
- government regulators are incompetent at best and are basically bribed by the beverage companies not to do anything
- obviously, the solution is more government regulation, giving more power to said incompetent/unethical regulators
lol I just saw the documentary and your synopsis might be one of the worst synopsis I've ever seen.

I haven't done any fact checks on the points that Ron Burgundy left out but here are some of them:

- Bottled water is no better than tap water. It often comes from the same source (ie from the tap) and is sometimes contaminated with chemicals hazardous to one's health which wouldn't normally be found in tap water.
- The bottles that are used for bottled water contain chemicals that leech into the water and can cause negative health effects.
- The bottled water companies often rape small towns/cities of their clean water supply (even during droughts) and sell it back to them and others for a ridiculous mark up.
- The waste that comes from bottled water is massive and often ends up in the oceans harming the eco-system.
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01-10-2011 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HotzenplOdds
Years ago I saw a great documentary about stock brokers on wall street. It was broadcast here in germany and had german voiceover but it looked/sounded like an american production to me.

Basically it was a general portrait of trading at wall street but they followed 2 or 3 brokers in particular. Somewhen through the documentary one of those brokers was in some sort of deep **** while buying/selling oil (?) and things got quite crazy with him in fear of losing a ton of money cause he ****ed something up.

EDF, any idea what documentary that is and where to find it? Any other suggestions on the topic of stock brokers?

Help is much appreciated.
Might be ´Wall Street Warriors´
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01-10-2011 , 05:45 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Restrepo is awesome. Some journalists/filmmakers traveled with a platoon to the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan where some of the heaviest fighting took place. It's really well done.
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01-10-2011 , 08:37 PM
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- Bottled water is no better than tap water. It often comes from the same source (ie from the tap)
except that it's filtered more. All you have to do is read the label if you don't want to drink "filtered tap water."

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The bottled water companies often rape small towns/cities of their clean water supply
So people who happen to live near clean natural water sources are the only ones who should be able to drink clean water?

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The waste that comes from bottled water is massive and often ends up in the oceans harming the eco-system.
pretty much all plastics harm the ecosystem. Blaming it all on the bottled water industry is ignorant and ******ed.
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01-10-2011 , 08:48 PM
War On Democracy by John Pilger
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised by two irish guys
Manufacturing Consent --about Noam Chomsky
The Power of Nightmares
All of these are great
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01-10-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
Uh, yes it is a scam. Watch and find out why. I would compare it to the marketing campaign of Grey Goose. Also, you must live in a ****** area if your tap water tastes like dirt.
I live in Redondo Beach, CA. Our tap water tastes like ass compared to Arrowhead. It's really not close. I personally drink tap water because I'm used to it. But I could certainly see someone else choosing different, and not because they are being scammed.
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01-11-2011 , 05:45 AM
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Might be ´Wall Street Warriors´
Not the one that I was looking for but seems a good recommendation.

Thanks!
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01-11-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Fat Head was great imo. At least in that it shed some light on other possible causes for weight gain, diabetes and heart disease. Definitely worth a look.

9/10
I liked it as well. It kind of touches on the story of how saturated fats have been unfairly vilified in the last few decades. Ironically, this led to food makers and processors switching to hydrogenated vegetable oils(nonsense like hydrogenated margarine > butter or corn/soybean/canola oil > coconut/palm/lard/tallow oil in food processing/frying) or switching to "low fat" (high sugar) food products was preferable in general.
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01-11-2011 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Joss
Wow, huge lol at bottled spunk. It blows my mind when things like that happen. How many dozens of people in the company saw that slogan before it went live?
How many do you think didn't say anything?
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01-11-2011 , 10:08 PM
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I liked it as well. It kind of touches on the story of how saturated fats have been unfairly vilified in the last few decades. Ironically, this led to food makers and processors switching to hydrogenated vegetable oils(nonsense like hydrogenated margarine > butter or corn/soybean/canola oil > coconut/palm/lard/tallow oil in food processing/frying) or switching to "low fat" (high sugar) food products was preferable in general.
Funny how I recommended this to friends and family and a lot of them "didn't get it." Most of them thought this guy was "advocating" eating fast food! I didn't see it that way at all.
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01-12-2011 , 12:50 AM
Watched Cocaine Cowboys last night after reading through this thread. I liked it a lot. Interesting stuff
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