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Old 08-11-2010, 01:08 AM   #46
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

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awesome...champion beast is good for overhand shots too! Works well especially if you have even the slightest baseball, tennis, football, etc background. Is the crap putter like a soft broken in crappy putter, or hard and nicked up?
hard, uneven, and nicked, haha. I've bought a new putter since then, but have only played once.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:53 PM   #47
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Check out the new putter, its called an Ion and the plastic on the outside grips the chains. The chain grabbing works really well but its a bit faster with better glide than Im used to which is taking some adjustment.



hyzer putt?
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:07 AM   #48
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

I play at Cas Benton in Northville, MI and some courses at school.

Normally play mostly all Innova.

Bought a Fade Tournament bag with quad shocks recently. Quad shocks are pretty much the 'standard' for backpack straps.



Throw:

Star Wraith
Champion Groove
DX Eagle
DX Archangel
DX Gazelle
Pro Roc
Pro Aviar
Pro Banger GT (Discraft)

I used to have: Star T-rex and it was good while I had it.

I ordered: Champion Teebird, Rhyno, Firebird, and Roadrunner off eBay and they seem to have gotten lost in the mail, :/. Accuracy, windy disks, rollers, etc.

Not even really that good yet, but want to be playing every day. I can shoot under par from short tees with overhand on every hole, but am trying to work on my backhand because it is severely lacking.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:12 AM   #49
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

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hyzer putt?
Im not a fan of hyzer putting, compared to other styles I think you lose a lot of left to right consistency.
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Star Wraith
Champion Groove
DX Eagle
DX Archangel
DX Gazelle
Pro Roc
Pro Aviar
Pro Banger GT (Discraft)

I used to have: Star T-rex and it was good while I had it.

I ordered: Champion Teebird, Rhyno, Firebird, and Roadrunner off eBay and they seem to have gotten lost in the mail, :/. Accuracy, windy disks, rollers, etc.

Not even really that good yet, but want to be playing every day. I can shoot under par from short tees with overhand on every hole, but am trying to work on my backhand because it is severely lacking.
I really like your disc selection, its very similar to my bag atm . One disc you might want to try is a PD (power driver) by Discmania it would compliment your Gazelle/Eagle combo nicely and let you get the distance gap between Gazelle/Eagle/TB and Wraith/Groove more accurately and handle wind significantly better than Gazelle/Eagle/TeeBird do.

What are you struggling with on your backhand? Turning discs over? Not enough power?

Main things people struggle with compared to OH/FH is getting the leverage meaning leading with your elbow like you would if you were playing regular golf or baseball and using it to quickly accelerate your arm.

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Old 08-12-2010, 11:19 AM   #50
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Im not a fan of hyzer putting, compared to other styles I think you lose a lot of left to right consistency.

I really like your disc selection, its very similar to my bag atm . One disc you might want to try is a PD (power driver) by Discmania it would compliment your Gazelle/Eagle combo nicely and let you get the distance gap between Gazelle and Wraith more accurately and handle wind significantly better than Gazelle/Eagle/TeeBird do.
I originally got the Eagle/Gazelle because I thought they were decent mid-range stable discs. But browsing lots of forums, etc it seems that the general consensus is that you load up with like 4 Pro Roc's and wear them down at different degrees lol.

I haven't been able to use the Roc too much recently, but I'm still getting the hang of its rim. It's a little hollow and I feel my fingers get caught up under it a bit.

Have been trying the traditional power grip backhand with limited success but I have the grip with pointer finger out pretty good.

The Aviar is pretty stiff and I'd use it for more power putts whereas the Pro Banger GT is soft with a thumb ring indention which I'd use for touch putts.

Hopefully he'll resend some of those discs I ordered or just refund me until I actually get them in the mail. But was looking forward to them. $55 order and he didn't want to spend $0.80 on delivery confirmation .
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:44 AM   #51
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

Yeah gripping Roc's vs drivers (I count eagles/gazelles as drivers) is pretty different, in general on the drivers you will have your thumb further forward and the disc higher up past the seam of your hand. For a Roc I find I have to bring it down more towards the seam of my hand and bring my thumb out on the flightplate more.

A grip with your index finger out will probably rob you of a lot of power potential because the disc ripping out of your index/thumb pinch is where big distance is generated. Maybe try keeping your index finger under but taking your pinkie or pinkie and ring finger off so you can get comfortable. Stack grips could work too.

Heres a good article on grips with lots of pics:
http://discgolfreview.com/resources/...ttoripit.shtml
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:03 PM   #52
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

i only use one disc (championship beast) or sometimes two when i used to use a putter

i think it develops frolfing toughness
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:19 PM   #53
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

I agree and I disagree. I think minimizing the amount of molds you use is a very good idea as many people never learn the discs they have and using the same disc for similar distance shots. For example right now I use:

175 Ion Putter up to about 220'
172 DX Roc up to about 300'
170 Star PD up to ~400'
171 Star Wraith for overstable shots.
166 DX Valkyrie for anhyzer, roll curves, hyzer flips, rollers

With less than that you simply dont have all the shots available. Say you have a 200' shot with a 20' tunnel, theres no way you can possibly hit that line with a driver. You need to hyzer flip a mid range disc or putter. Or for example yesterday I was playing in 30mph wind out here in Vegas, a Beast would have turned over on every headwind shot unless you put an 80 degree hyzer on it (at least the new mold would have). DG is a game of margins of error too so if you are throwing a very fast disc like a Beast on every shot on average a similarly skilled player throwing a Roc on holes <280' will crush you in the long run because if he shanks a Roc it never goes very far. If you add some technical holes like trees blocking the right or left his edge gets even bigger as powering down without hyzers on fast discs is very hard.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:30 PM   #54
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

yeah that makes sense

i love frolf and think i will get in a round today at charlie vettiner in louisville

i was in vegas all summer, bought a bunch of discs for everyone, and we didn't make it out once :/

we call the physical holes/cages 'buskets'
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:35 PM   #55
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

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Yeah gripping Roc's vs drivers (I count eagles/gazelles as drivers) is pretty different, in general on the drivers you will have your thumb further forward and the disc higher up past the seam of your hand. For a Roc I find I have to bring it down more towards the seam of my hand and bring my thumb out on the flightplate more.

A grip with your index finger out will probably rob you of a lot of power potential because the disc ripping out of your index/thumb pinch is where big distance is generated. Maybe try keeping your index finger under but taking your pinkie or pinkie and ring finger off so you can get comfortable. Stack grips could work too.

Heres a good article on grips with lots of pics:
http://discgolfreview.com/resources/...ttoripit.shtml
I usually just refer to:

http://www.innovadiscs.com/home/dave...grip-tips.html

I am trying to learn the four-finger power grip which is the standard I guess, but am having a little trouble controlling it. If I try to place it safe, I'll normally throw the three-finger with pointer out until I can get the normal one down.

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I agree and I disagree. I think minimizing the amount of molds you use is a very good idea as many people never learn the discs they have and using the same disc for similar distance shots. For example right now I use:

175 Ion Putter up to about 220'
172 DX Roc up to about 300'
170 Star PD up to ~400'
171 Star Wraith for overstable shots.
166 DX Valkyrie for anhyzer, roll curves, hyzer flips, rollers

With less than that you simply dont have all the shots available. Say you have a 200' shot with a 20' tunnel, theres no way you can possibly hit that line with a driver. You need to hyzer flip a mid range disc or putter. Or for example yesterday I was playing in 30mph wind out here in Vegas, a Beast would have turned over on every headwind shot unless you put an 80 degree hyzer on it (at least the new mold would have). DG is a game of margins of error too so if you are throwing a very fast disc like a Beast on every shot on average a similarly skilled player throwing a Roc on holes <280' will crush you in the long run because if he shanks a Roc it never goes very far. If you add some technical holes like trees blocking the right or left his edge gets even bigger as powering down without hyzers on fast discs is very hard.
I'm guessing a hyzer flip with an understable disc would be easier than throwing an anhyzer normal (S-curve?)? With the differences in tailing off in either direction obv.

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And never in my life have I heard it be called "frolf".
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:49 PM   #56
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

If we are talking about going for a max distance line its an open debate whether a hyzer flip or anhyzer "flex shot" is ideal. In general I think hyzer flips have a greater distance potential but are harder to do consistently compared to the flex shot. Going for distance both shots will have an "S" shape. In general I tend to choose which to use based on the wind.

Hyzer flips are more versatile, for example often Ill throw a hyzer flip if I want the disc to go straight and never fade left (throwing right hand backhand) it will just sort of "lock into" the straight line as it flips up, very useful for tunnels.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:01 PM   #57
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

I should mention I think throwing anhyzer correctly is actually harder as its a very different form than releasing flat/hyzer backhand but I know a lot of people find it easier.
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Re: Disc Golf/Frolf!!!

Wow never even knew this existed, but then again I am from the UK where things normally get picked up slower Love both frisbee and golf, seams the perfect pairing.
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Wow never even knew this existed, but then again I am from the UK where things normally get picked up slower Love both frisbee and golf, seams the perfect pairing.
Bump.

Disc golf has been in the UK for years. I played the course in East Croydon(near London) a couple years ago, it was a nice course and very nice to play with the locals. You can check out PDGA.com for the course directory to find out if there are any near you.

Just found this thread. I've been playing for 15 years. I played 60+ courses in a bunch of states and have probably played in 40 sanctioned tournaments. I started competing as an Am (intermediate) and moved my way up to Advanced Am and eventually Open. I've competed against the best of the best. Did very well as an am but not the greatest pro. I haven't played much the last couple of years but have recently started playing a lot again.

My bag:Revolution (I think NC edition) Quadshocks ldo.
2 JK prototype putters 1 newish 1 broken in both about 172
2 KC 11x rocs 1 newish 1 broken in both 180
Baby Roc 180

VL Champ Valk 172
1x Barry Champ Beast 172
Star Destroyer 172
CE TL Teebird 172
11x Champ Eagle 172
Old Super Stable Champ Firebird 172

Sorry TL;DR
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Favorite courses in the states?
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