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View Poll Results: Who wins?? (No vote if you think the other guy wins)
Joseph Benavidez beats Henry Cejudo (No check = Cejudo wins)
15 65.22%
Daniel Cormier wins by decision
3 13.04%
Daniel Cormier wins inside the distance
10 43.48%
Anthony Johnson wins by decision
0 0%
Anthony Johnson wins inside the distance
9 39.13%
Max Holloway beats Anthony Pettis (No check = Pettis wins)
10 43.48%
Sage Northcutt beats Gall (No check = Gall wins)
14 60.87%
Amanda Nunes beats Ronda Rousey (No check = Rousey wins)
11 47.83%
Dominick Cruz beats Cody Garbrandt (No check = Garbrandt wins)
19 82.61%
Fabricio Werdum beats Cain Velasquez (No check = Velasquez wins)
10 43.48%

11-27-2016 , 02:41 PM
Spoiler:
What was Brunson doing? It made sense to go all out when he almost hand the finish but then he kept lunging chin up to the point he was falling over. Would have been questionable to do this once but he kept doing it until the powerful counterpuncher clipped him. Whitaker showed he had a really good chin but I think Brunson would win this easily if he was a little more experienced in the stand up.
11-27-2016 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Spoiler:
What was Brunson doing? It made sense to go all out when he almost hand the finish but then he kept lunging chin up to the point he was falling over. Would have been questionable to do this once but he kept doing it until the powerful counterpuncher clipped him. Whitaker showed he had a really good chin but I think Brunson would win this easily if he was a little more experienced in the stand up.
Agree with this 100%. He fought like a moron. It's great and all to be a pressure fighter but you can't run at your opponent over and over if he is at all competent. How a pro doesn't know that is amazing.

Didn't mind that card last night at all. Volkanovski had some of the most punishing ground and pound I've ever seen. How Kasuya wasn't KO'd or even cut I'll never know. Akhmedov is a beast as well.
11-28-2016 , 01:07 PM
That fight reminded me a lot of how Stipe beat Werdum. Precision striker's eventually gonna get you if you keep rushing in like that. Would like to see him fight one of the top five next.
11-28-2016 , 03:01 PM
Yea reminded me of the stipe werdum fight as well. I wonder if it's some type of moment getting to them deal. These guys gotta know better than to run at people with their chins up.
11-28-2016 , 06:28 PM
Bjorn!
11-28-2016 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Yea reminded me of the stipe werdum fight as well. I wonder if it's some type of moment getting to them deal. These guys gotta know better than to run at people with their chins up.


Brunson had 5 1st round KOs in a row, and was one power shot away from another. He probably felt invincible.

As someone said, his aggressiveness made sense when he initially hurt Whitaker, but he never seemed to get his emotions in check after that. Maybe it's just really hard to dial back kill mode once it's initiated.
11-29-2016 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rasmer
Oh snap. Union could be both good and/or bad for fans. But fighters definitely need it. Listened to a podcast about CTE recently, jesus it's horrifying and these guys mostly get paid nothing.
11-29-2016 , 06:26 AM
https://streamable.com/g52e

i have no idea how so many ufc fighters get hurt in camps. they all seem so professional in their approach!
11-29-2016 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
https://streamable.com/g52e

i have no idea how so many ufc fighters get hurt in camps. they all seem so professional in their approach!
Mindblowing.
11-29-2016 , 11:32 AM
beautuful arching of the back there, nice technique!
11-29-2016 , 12:43 PM
How is it possible so many extremely high level fighters train so stupidity. I mean doesn't your average bally total fitness trainer know better? I mean wtf.
11-29-2016 , 12:48 PM
What's even more mind-blowing than training like that is being so unaware you don't know what you're doing you post a video of it...
11-29-2016 , 02:47 PM
Is it possible that something like this is fine if you're trying your max and it's okay to ignore standard gym knowledge for short period? It seems really hard to believe that average gym dudebro knows more about lifting weights than a professional fighter.
11-29-2016 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Codecci
Is it possible that something like this is fine if you're trying your max and it's okay to ignore standard gym knowledge for short period? It seems really hard to believe that average gym dudebro knows more about lifting weights than a professional fighter.
I'm an average gym dudebro and I have read a **** ton on form, watched too many videos and nerded out for years on lifting. You may be right, but the absolute universal consensus on deadlifting is keeping your back neutral and flat is essential to not placing undue load on your disks. That specific issue is called out more than anything and warned about more than anything. It is always the number one mentioned caution.

I have have seen loads of non-consensus on grip, shoulder position, foot position, loads, rep ranges, frequency, hip hinging, bar placement...even about doing it at all...but never an argument that a curved spine was okay.
11-29-2016 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Codecci
Is it possible that something like this is fine if you're trying your max and it's okay to ignore standard gym knowledge for short period? It seems really hard to believe that average gym dudebro knows more about lifting weights than a professional fighter.
No. Maybe with the exception of being in a powerlifting/strongman competition and you feel the risk of serious injury is worth the payoff of winning. For anybody else it's just insanely dumb, especially if they're doing it to make a max lift. That is the time when all your tissues are stressed to the max, making injury way more likely. Doing this as a professional athlete is doubly ******ed as you're risking career threatening injury.
11-29-2016 , 03:18 PM
According to what I've read it is not just a risk of injury at the time either. Repeated bad form on deadlifts can create a cumulative effect that increases damage over time. I don't claim to have a deep understanding of it but I stopped doing heavy deadlifts this year after videoing my own form and not being happy with it, and it was nowhere near this bad.
11-29-2016 , 04:32 PM
I think the same mentality that says "maybe I should be a pro fighter" is "maybe I should lift heavy with no training"
11-30-2016 , 11:19 AM
Curved spine with deadlifts? El Cucuy don't even care, bro.
11-30-2016 , 01:27 PM
To be fair people do this trying to break out of the triangle or arm bar every day in bjj and no one raises an eyebrow.
11-30-2016 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
To be fair people do this trying to break out of the triangle or arm bar every day in bjj and no one raises an eyebrow.
The forces involved and the way the tissues are loaded make that a totally different thing. However, doing those moves probably still isn't good for your back.
11-30-2016 , 06:21 PM
Ariel on Tim and Sid right now discussing the new "non Union"... led by GSP


edit. as of now the segment hasn't been on yet so you haven't missed it.

Last edited by Everlastrr; 11-30-2016 at 06:33 PM. Reason: update
11-30-2016 , 06:42 PM
Where's the announcement ?
11-30-2016 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wesrwood
Where's the announcement ?
Segment with Ariel is starting in a minute or so. Tim and Sid is talkshow on Sportsnet in Canada. They have hinted at talking about an organization for pro MMA fighters.


edit: some detail on Ariel's twitter

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani?ref...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
11-30-2016 , 07:53 PM
Huh, kinda surprised to see Mr. Company Man himself Cowboy Cerrone on that bandwagon.

      
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