Interesting that you mention the sours. It didn't click earlier but your post reminded me that the guy who basically built Wicked Weed's sour program from the beginning was poached by BrewDog earlier this year:

http://goodbeerhunting.com/sightline...g-sour-venture

Anheuser bought out Elysian a couple years ago and they seem unchanged. Space Dust anyway. It increases the chances of going cheaper or changing something and ****ing it up I guess.

Anyone tried the Treehouse offerings? Thinking of buying some on Facebook, but unsure if I want to pay $10 a can.


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I mean $10/can is obviously absurd but if you have no other way of acquiring it or a similar caliber, I'd justify it in my mind by saying I'd be ok with paying $10 for a 16 oz pour at a bar (assuming the cans are fresh)

yeah, $10/can is crazy, but would not deter me too much to be able to try a few different cans. I was able to trade for some on here a few years ago and all were amazing. Think I had Julius, Green and Haze.

this is one of those times when the dollars are more important than the %'s. yeah $10 is a crazy markup, but it's also what I pay for lunch everyday so...

Where are you located? There's a lot of breweries these days making stuff as good/better than treehouse, and depending where you are could be more accessible/cheaper.

Edit: if you are in indy as your profile suggests, just go to Hoof Hearted sometime, their newer NE style ipas are pretty comparable to the better ones out there. Toppling Goliath is a bit far from indy, but king Sue and DDH pseudo Sue are about as desirable as treehouse I'd say.

So there's a bottle of beer I've had in my fridge for a few weeks - St. Archer's Tusk & Grain Tequila & Bourbon Barrel Aged Coffee Porter.



I had actually tried to open it once before, but there was so much wax on the top that I gave up trying. I tried again last night, using the knife from a waiter's corkscrew as well as this circular wine foil cutter I have - neither worked.



Now, I'm no stranger to wax-topped bottles. I hate them, but I've never been beaten by them. But I could not open this damn thing last night. So finally, I did something that I've seen others do - I used fire to melt the wax. I felt ridiculous.

I put a paper towel down on the counter to catch any wax drippings, then I used one of those safety lighters like this:



With the top of the bottle in the flame, it did indeed work - the wax started melting. But the melted wax didn't just fall to the paper towel. Instead, the paper towel caught on fire. At that point, my wife looked over at me with some alarm, wondering why the hell I was setting fire to our countertop.

But the point is, I got access to the cap, and I drank the beer.





Verdict:
It was fine. I don't like tequila, so I'm not entirely sure why I bought this, but the tequila wasn't overpowering. Barely noticeable, even. Certainly not worth the effort, and there's no way I'm ever buying a waxed bottle of Tusk & Grain anything in the future.

Do they can PsuedoSue? Haven't had King Sue, but was able to get DDH PsuedoSue for $10/bomber or something. At that price difference probably not worth it. While it was a very good beer, pretty much every hoppy TH I've had was better. I'd just go with TH there. I'm used to paying close to $1/oz for elite DIPAs in NYC bars though so the sticker shock is pretty low to me.

Spider,

I reviewed that earlier - was not very into it.

Not sure if this has been posted before, but I agree completely: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.pas..****es-suck.html

That's a great article. I loved this:

That was exactly the feeling I had last night, in between using a sharp knife and fire to open a bottle of beer.

I read that article when I saw it linked from the imperial stout/BA imperial stout mega-review posted earlier - one of the things that made me upset about the BA stout review was that this article clearly has a picture of the guy opening a Chocolate Rain, but Chocolate Rain was not in the stout review! wtf dude!

Anyone? Bueller?

If you can tear yourselves away from those juicy NEIPAs that we have no hope of seeing here, of course...

thunderbolts,
I've never heard of most of the beers on your list. I've had Goose Island Sofie. It's pretty good and should be able to sit around for a while, unlike most of the other ones.

Hope that helps.

Thunder,

• Modern Times - Oneida tasty refreshing pale ale
  
• Modern Times - Lomaland haven't had, but I like most everything they make
  
• Alpine - Hoppy Birthday very good hoppy ipa a little bit on the lighter side but still a ton of flavor
  
• Sierra Nevada - Hop Hunter has been a while since I tried this but iirc I thought it was a little too much bitter hoppiness for my preference
  
• Goose Island - Sofie (2016) solid basic saison, happy to drink it, nothing special
  

Update, I've apparently had Hop Hunter and didn't like it at all.

Thunder,

I assume the age you get them will be about as fresh as possible for you, so just take note. If you like the way they taste, great! If not, try to remember it and then when you visit USA #1 try them here.

I'd bet the most money on SN holding up the best of those, out of those that are hoppy.

PseudoSue is canned and available fairly widely in Chicago.

I haven't found a tequila or mezcal aged beer that makes sense to me yet. Virtually all of them have made me basically retch.

was at a B dubs near Indy and a brother of a friend basically managed the place. this was about 6 to 7 years ago i would say and this beer is what basically got me into crafties, the brother of a friend was giving us all kinds of free samples there.

I believe Gumballhead was originally released as a summer seasonal but because of popularity hit the main stage.

+1 for Dark Horse. Not sure what way you would be coming up from Indy but it is right where 94 and 69 interchange. Would be really easy to hit Darkhorse --> Bells --> then go to all the breweries in Grand Rapids/ on US 31 on the west side. Something along these lines makes the most sense (a little bit of backtracking but not too bad



Would recommend oddside just to go to Grand Haven if it's a nice day

Drank a few new and local things.

Night Shift - El Lechedor: their once-a-year horchata milk stout. Love this beer every year. Sadly they didn't bottle it this year because of some quality issue but that means there are more kegs to be had at the brewery so it should stick around for closer to a month instead of the usual 1 week. Good excuse to go back. Pitch black pour with a thin, mocha head. Great aroma of nutmeg and cinnamon. Taste follows the nose. Tastes like the milk left at the bottom of a bowl of cinnamon toast crunch, and I mean that in the very best way. Had to work to taste the roasted poblano peppers which are more bitter than hot, but they cut through the sweetness well. Still sad there were no bottles to bring home.

Night Shift - Cow Tipper: Chocolate milk stout. Found it pretty bland and wished it had more of everything, but I was drinking it along side the lechedor. Whatever. My fiancee was into it so I'll probably wind up with some in my fridge and revisit this in the future.

Jack's Abby - Wicked Philthy: New England IPL. Pretty much totally cosign kidcolin's earlier review. Totally adequate and not exceptional. Wouldn't have known it was a NEIPL if the can didn't say so. Would pretty much always but Excess or Mass Rising instead.

Down the Road - Queequeg's Revenge: With the new tap room scheduled to open near me, I figured I should try some of their beers. This is their entry into the NEIPA field. The can was 6 weeks old and it looked like a snowglobe in my glass after I poured much like an older trillium IPA. Nice chewy body. They skipped the usual hop suspects and went with all New Zealand hops. The two most pronounced were motueka and pacifica. Big lime and floral aroma. Flavor was more muted with a nice bitterness on the end. Definitely stands out as unique among other NEIPAs which have been seeming pretty same-y to me lately.

Down the Road - Cherry Feyborn: Cherry berliner weisse. Pours the color of rose wine with a fluffy head. I smell a lot of wheat with the sour cherry. Much stronger malt backbone than I'm used to tasting in a berliner weisse. Great tart puckering cherry finish. Will definitely buy again and look forward to trying other feyborn variations.

Thanks everyone. FWIW most of the stuff has held up pretty well so far; not sure about the 8 West.

El Diablo - yeah, I'm a fan of pretty much everything Modern Times make too. It's been rare over this side of the Atlantic but seems to be appearing a bit more frequently. Should save me some air miles...

That is some spectacular lacing, and I guarantee the space between each ring, indicating the size of the slug, would be much greater if I got my hands on a Gumball Head nowadays.

If I lived in Chicago perhaps I would show similar restraint, but I'm not sure. I hope to stay out of your drunk tanks and bizarre prison system.

The US imports are weak in comparison to the domestic stuff on that list IMO. Interested in where you do beer shopping though...

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Anyone else going to Dark Lord Day this weekend? This is my first time going and I'm pretty excited.