January 2017 Extra Special ***ONCE EVER. ONCE IN HUMAN HISTORY.*** MMA/Fightin' Thread - EDF Forum

Two Plus Two Forums 2+2 Communities EDF

January 2017 Extra Special ***ONCE EVER. ONCE IN HUMAN HISTORY.*** MMA/Fightin' Thread

View Poll Results: Who is a UFC Champion at the end of 2017?

Stipe Miocic

13 30.95%

Daniel Cormier

8 19.05%

Michael Bisping

0 0%

Tyron Woodley

1 2.38%

Conor McGregor

20 47.62%

Jose Aldo

19 45.24%

Cody Garbrandt

13 30.95%

Demetrious Johnson

29 69.05%

Amanda Nunes

23 54.76%

Joanna Jedrzejczyk

27 64.29%

...

Page 1 of 33

1 2 3 4 5 6 11 21

Page 1 of 33

1 2 3 4 5 6 11 21

01-01-2017 , 09:37 AM

PartyGirlUK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23,530

p.s.

Upcoming UFC headliners

Yair Rodriguez v. BJ Penn
Shevchenko v. Pena
Bermudez v. Zombie
Holm v. de Randamie
JDS v. Struve
TBD
TBD
Gastelum v. Vitor

:/

Last edited by PartyGirlUK; 01-01-2017 at 09:54 AM.

01-01-2017 , 12:21 PM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,016

God 208 might not break 100k buys. Woof

01-01-2017 , 12:28 PM

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

Everyone want to still argue with me that Nate vs Cerrone isn't a PPV headliner?

01-01-2017 , 12:38 PM

PartyGirlUK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23,530

What fights could Dana add to UFC 208 to make it 'PPV worthy'? It's six weeks away which might make it too close to add certain fights that make sense. Miocic-Werdum II if Stipe is ready? Cormier & Bisping won't fight until spring. The card is so weak, it's hard to believe they won't do something like find Anderson a fight.

01-01-2017 , 01:10 PM

Hoya

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,089

Glad I bought 208 tickets.

01-01-2017 , 01:39 PM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,016

Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Everyone want to still argue with me that Nate vs Cerrone isn't a PPV headliner?

Who said this? At this moment Nate vs. Cowboy at 160 is an easy headliner. Probably does 400k if paired with a couple other decent fights.

Assuming you can pay Nate enough to fight someone that isn't Conor, the hard part is the weight. Nate needs to stay at 155 to set up Nate/Conor III for the belt and Cowboy is doing work at 170. Catchweight makes sense, but also sort of takes away any "umph".

01-01-2017 , 01:46 PM

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

Pretty much the whole thread argued with me.

I'll dig it up.

01-01-2017 , 01:49 PM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,016

Probably best not to as I'm sure I probably was part of the mob lol.

Regardless, the UFC really needs some natural stars right now and the Diaz bros'. and Cowboy are towards the top of the list

01-01-2017 , 01:52 PM

El Diablo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 70,770

Whiners,

What will it take to ever satisfy you? It's not a worthwhile card unless Conor or Jon jones are fighting?

208 features the long awaited #4 v #10 Women's bantamweight showdown and the #8 v #9 heavyweight battle to once and for all settle the #7 contender debate! How much more do you need on a card to make you happy?

01-01-2017 , 01:52 PM

#10

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

It wasn't as many arguing with me as I thought. Here's an example tho:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=260

01-01-2017 , 03:09 PM

#11

Thug Bubbles

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,183

Diaz is probably not fighting until he gets the Conor rematch. This is the same guy that sat out for a year because he was pissed about his pay, and that was when he "didn't move the needle". Now that he's an undisputed draw, he's gonna be even more comfortable asking for the world. I think he said he wouldn't take another fight for less than 15 million.

01-01-2017 , 03:19 PM

#12

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

That's also when he was making 20/20 after an upfront signing bonus.

Tougher to turn down if we're talking about a few million after PPV points.

But sure, he's prbly not taking another fight before Conor in all likelihood.

01-01-2017 , 04:07 PM

#13

CharlieDontSurf

Blessed by Pope

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,811

damn just saw scorecard...didn't realize Dom won the 1, 2, & 5th with 2 of the 3 judges.

Monster 4th round from Cody

01-01-2017 , 04:13 PM

#14

PartyGirlUK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23,530

I think Weeks gave Garbrandt the fifth round because he thought he'd look stupid scoring the fight for Cruz (or a draw). Not the way it should work.

01-01-2017 , 04:32 PM

#15

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,016

Said it as the fight concluded, researched and had the same score: 48-46 Cody

10-9 NL
10-9 Dom
10-9 NL
10-8 NL
10-9 Dom

Weeks card is all sorts of lol. 4th seems a prototypical 10-8. At least two KDs one of which left Dom on wobbly legs.

01-01-2017 , 05:58 PM

#16

CharlieDontSurf

Blessed by Pope

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,811

Had it
10-9: Cruz
10-9: Cruz
10-9: NL
10-8: NL
10-9: Cruz

Will be super excited for rematch and to see the adjustments Cruz makes.

TJ vs Cody should be awesome. I could see them doing a Cleveland card in early 2017 with Stipe and Cody defending.

01-01-2017 , 08:06 PM

#17

Faluzure

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,986

Sub

01-01-2017 , 10:18 PM

#18

StimAbuser

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,822

Apparently Woodley and Bisping have agreed on a 180 catch weight. God I hope the ufc doesn't do that.

01-01-2017 , 10:54 PM

#19

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,016

Gross, but I can see why Woodly would prefer that over Wonderboy again, and why Bisping would love to avoid Yoel.

01-01-2017 , 11:01 PM

#20

Fossilkid93

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 14,196

Just have it at 185 for the Middleweight title and after Woodley wins easily it sets up Conor v. Woodley, the Fight to End All Fights: Double Champion vs. Double Champion, winner gets all 4 belts

01-01-2017 , 11:14 PM

#21

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Apparently Woodley and Bisping have agreed on a 180 catch weight. God I hope the ufc doesn't do that.

Ya, NOT INTERESTED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fossilkid93

Just have it at 185 for the Middleweight title and after Woodley wins easily it sets up Conor v. Woodley, the Fight to End All Fights: Double Champion vs. Double Champion, winner gets all 4 belts

01-01-2017 , 11:23 PM

#22

A_C_Slater

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,343

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Woodley or Bisping has to weigh in at 185 to fight for the middleweight title, I think the champion can weigh in at any number below 185 and still defend, if he's willing to risk it.

01-01-2017 , 11:29 PM

#23

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,186

I'm sure you're right and they can weigh in anywhere from 170-185* and catch-weight is an arbitrary cutoff that they both agree to otherwise.

I guess I disagree that it's any number below 185 though.

*I would've assumed it was 171-185 but this

Quote:

Weight Categories[edit]
There are 11 classes of weight for fighters:[7]

Atomweight (women) - up to 105 lb (47.6 kg)
Strawweight (women) - between 105 and 115 lb (47.6 and 52.2 kg)
Flyweight (men/women) – between 115 and 125 lb (52.2 and 56.7 kg)
Bantamweight (men/women) – between 125 and 135 lb (56.7 and 61.2 kg)
Featherweight (men/women) – between 135 and 145 lb (61.2 and 65.8 kg)
Lightweight (men) – between 145 and 155 lb (65.8 and 70.3 kg)
Welterweight (men) – between 155 and 170 lb (70.3 and 77.1 kg)
Middleweight (men) – between 170 and 185 lb (77.1 and 83.9 kg)
Light Heavyweight (men) – between 185 and 205 lb (83.9 and 93.0 kg)
Heavyweight (men) – between 205 and 265 lb (93.0 and 120.2 kg)
Super Heavyweight (men) - With no upper weight limit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_...d_Martial_Arts

indicates otherwise.

01-01-2017 , 11:34 PM

#24

A_C_Slater

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,343

Why would there ever be a lower weight floor to winning a title? Let's say Jose Aldo fights Bisping and wins while weighing in at 166, he doesn't get to be Middleweight champion? If anything he should be considered even more of a champ for accomplishing that.