Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

EDF Interesting discussion of any and all topics, including Current Events, Entertainment, Politics, Art & Literature, Career, Hobbies, Lifestyle, Travel, Sports, and Gambling. Posts are expected to be intelligent, interesting, and respectful.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-11-2007, 06:13 PM   #151
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Worst: If you want the best picture at the price point right now, I think the Pioneer PDP-5071 is about $2000 -$2500. It does not have 1080p like Pioneer Elite 50" Plasma, but it is about $2000 cheaper. If you are willing to drop $4500, the the Pioneer PDP-FHD1 is considered the best TV of the size on the market. Since it wil mainly be for TV and movies, 1080p is not a concern for gaming, and unless you are really interested in Blu-Ray or HD-DVD (which I think will not catch on for at least 3-4 more years) I think the 5071 may be your best bet. If you want to read more on all these issues, go to avsforum.com, it is where I do all my research.

As for sound, the SVS home theatre package mentioned earlier in this thread is supposedly very good for speakers. Alot of issues involving sound depends on your ability to run wire, and whether your wife wants small unnoticeable speakers. My recommendage would either be the SVS package or Mirage Omnisats if your wife wants something not too big.

If you have your choice I would recommend a 5.1 system from AV123.com. In their X-series line you can get a pair of the X-sls or X-mtm towers for your front left and right, an X-cs center, X-ls surrounds, and an X-sub. If you call them they will do custom packages and you could probably get this for between $900-$1100. These are all substantial nicely finished speakers, but even the rear surrounds would be big and have to have stands or be mounted.

Then you just need a receiver to push it. For AV123, they would be able to tell you what recievers pair well with the speakers. My choice would be the Harmon Kardon AVR-247 ($500). Onkyo and Denon recievers are also very good.

If you need links to any of these products or any more questions, let me know.
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2007, 07:01 PM   #152
TheWorstPlayer
HoldEmKillah
 
TheWorstPlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Working. At a job. Really.
Posts: 21,663
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Wow, thanks for all the info. I admit a lot of it kinda went over my head, but I'll check out AV123 and read a bit on avsforum and will come back with further questions if I have any. Probably the next thing to do is just to talk to the future wife about her precise objections to things. Thanks, guys.
TheWorstPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2007, 08:25 PM   #153
Rick Nebiolo
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Rick Nebiolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: East of Eden
Posts: 8,690
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
So I just hooked up my new Panasonic 42" and it looks amazing. Thanks to everyone who recommended it, since it seems to be all the rage on 2+2 and everywhere else. I looked at a ton of TVs and spent a couple weeks reading up, and although I considered astro's advice of saving up for a 50"+, I figured that I was too impatient to wait and too poor to splurge for something like that now.

The Vizio was just a bit more washed out and I didn't want to sacrifice quality to save a couple hundred bucks. The LG and Samsungs looked almost as good as the Panasonic, but I went with the consensus choice. Anyway, it looks incredible and will look even better once I get my HD satellite receiver to watch broadcast in hi def.
I came close to buying the 50" Vizio for $1400 at Costco but then saw several pallets full of the Panasonic TH-50PX60U 50" Plasma hiding behind a display of giant bags of trail mix. The Costco price was $1750 and I'm paying $60 to get it delivered tomorrow. For some reasons I never saw the 42" version of this model line Panasonic at Costco but they did have the 37" version for about $900.

As I think noted elsewhere in this thread this family of models got very good reviews on CNET and other sites but apparently is being replaced by a new series of Panasonic's at a higher price. The Costco price is being more or less matched by several online sellers but I was wary of buying online for an item this large (one said they ship to the curbside and no further!).

I plan on using it mostly for DVD movies and will try to continue to slide on subscribing to cable or satellite TV. I live in line of sight to Mt. Wilson (all the LA area stations broadcast from there) and get good UHF with an indoor Terk and Phillips antennas on the 25" CRT I now moved to the bedroom. If I have luck getting the main broadcast channels HDTV (which is broadcast over UHF, check out antennaweb.org for your local broadcasts) I'll post my experience.

Costco also had a 52" Mitsubishi 1080p DLP TV with stand for about $1350 but that was just too big for my corner and seems small for a DLP.

Great thread Astro, a pleasure compared to the eye glazing mess on the AVS forums.

~ Rick
Rick Nebiolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2007, 07:47 AM   #154
Josem
human chemical weapon
 
Josem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Getting Trolled
Posts: 16,246
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Hey guys... anyway care to tell me whats better?

Plasma or LCD?
plasma = bigger

lcd = smaller


they're not really in competition with each other - the smallest plasmas available are around the same size as the largest lcds.

LCDs are (generally) better at displaying static images (eg, computer games); Plasmas are (generally) better at displaying fast moving images (eg, sport). However, size is a far more influencing factor - figure out how big you want your screen to be, and then purchase whichever technology fits your size.



Also, generally, i think that it would be sub-optimal to spend $4,000 on a display, and $400 on sound - unsurprisingly, for that sort of price ratio, you'll have a vastly better display than sound, and i think you will notice it.
Josem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2007, 03:21 PM   #155
guids
banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,996
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Im in the market for a TV, Ive sifted through a bunch of different things, and have an idea of what I want. I have a budget of 2500. My bedroom is about 20x20, but there is a ton of stuff in there, nad not too much room. I can wall mount it, or put it on a stand. My room is pretty bright. I want an LCD. Off the top of your heads what is the best option?
guids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2007, 02:39 AM   #156
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Im in the market for a TV, Ive sifted through a bunch of different things, and have an idea of what I want. I have a budget of 2500. My bedroom is about 20x20, but there is a ton of stuff in there, nad not too much room. I can wall mount it, or put it on a stand. My room is pretty bright. I want an LCD. Off the top of your heads what is the best option?
If you are going to sit within 10' or use it as a computer monitor I would get the LNT-4665f or 4661f ($2300 on Amazon). Both are 1080p, only major difference being that the 65f has a glossy screen which produces a more eye-poping picture, but is more prone to glare. The 61f has the standard matte LCD screen. IF you are not as concerned with size and will be sitting further than 6" away, the 40" 720 p Samsung LNT-4053h is only $1400. I would go 46" for sure if you are going to be veiwing from further than 12".
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2007, 02:44 AM   #157
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today



[/quote]

plasma = bigger
lcd = smaller

they're not really in competition with each other - the smallest plasmas available are around the same size as the largest lcds.

LCDs are (generally) better at displaying static images (eg, computer games); Plasmas are (generally) better at displaying fast moving images (eg, sport). However, size is a far more influencing factor - figure out how big you want your screen to be, and then purchase whichever technology fits your size.

Also, generally, i think that it would be sub-optimal to spend $4,000 on a display, and $400 on sound - unsurprisingly, for that sort of price ratio, you'll have a vastly better display than sound, and i think you will notice it.

[/quote]

This is not so much true anymore. LCD's are pretty comprable in price from the 42" to 50" range considering their feature set. Major difference is that smallest plasmas (42") are not 1080p whereas LCD's can be. Smallest 1080p plasmas are 50". LCD's are considered better for bright evnvironments b/c they have less glare. Plasma's currently produce an overall better picture all other things being equal.

But if you want bigger than 50" (or an affordable 50" TV) plasma is the best bet. If you want under 42", you have to do LCD.

Hopefully as LED Backlighting and 120 hz technologies become comonplace over the next year, LCD's will have as good a picture without fast motion problems.
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2007, 09:43 AM   #158
guids
banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,996
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Quote:
Im in the market for a TV, Ive sifted through a bunch of different things, and have an idea of what I want. I have a budget of 2500. My bedroom is about 20x20, but there is a ton of stuff in there, nad not too much room. I can wall mount it, or put it on a stand. My room is pretty bright. I want an LCD. Off the top of your heads what is the best option?
If you are going to sit within 10' or use it as a computer monitor I would get the LNT-4665f or 4661f ($2300 on Amazon). Both are 1080p, only major difference being that the 65f has a glossy screen which produces a more eye-poping picture, but is more prone to glare. The 61f has the standard matte LCD screen. IF you are not as concerned with size and will be sitting further than 6" away, the 40" 720 p Samsung LNT-4053h is only $1400. I would go 46" for sure if you are going to be veiwing from further than 12".
thanks just ordered the 65f, 2350 including shipping which aint to bad. I went with teh glossy finish because I can always put up curtains I guess.
guids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2007, 09:29 PM   #159
Rick Nebiolo
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Rick Nebiolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: East of Eden
Posts: 8,690
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
I plan on using it mostly for DVD movies and will try to continue to slide on subscribing to cable or satellite TV. I live in line of sight to Mt. Wilson (all the LA area stations broadcast from there) and get good UHF with an indoor Terk and Phillips antennas on the 25" CRT I now moved to the bedroom. If I have luck getting the main broadcast channels HDTV (which is broadcast over UHF, check out antennaweb.org for your local broadcasts) I'll post my experience.
I'll post in more detail if anyone shows interest but despite the fact I'm 24 miles out from the broadcast towers on Mount Wilson and am using a $35 or so Terk indoor antenna on my first night I got every HD and digital and high-def station almost perfectly. I also got free stations associated with the local network stations I didn't even know existed (such as the LA's NBC affiliates version of the weather channel, there isn't even weather in LA!)

Also I can't imagine a better 50" Plasma for well under $2000 than this Panasonic.

~ Rick
Rick Nebiolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2007, 09:55 PM   #160
Austiger
Pooh-Bah
 
Austiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 5,973
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Great thread. Can I get some advice?

I have an old Sony receiver STR-DE335, and a DVD player I bought a few years ago for about $125 or something, and a 15-yr old Onkyo CD player. Should I scrap everything for a Home Theatre in a box setup, or should I keep what I have and just get some speakers? My TV is average now, but I will be upgrading to a new one eventually. I live in a duplex with vaulted ceilings but it's only about 900 sq ft.
Austiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 08:24 PM   #161
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Great thread. Can I get some advice?

I have an old Sony receiver STR-DE335, and a DVD player I bought a few years ago for about $125 or something, and a 15-yr old Onkyo CD player. Should I scrap everything for a Home Theatre in a box setup, or should I keep what I have and just get some speakers? My TV is average now, but I will be upgrading to a new one eventually. I live in a duplex with vaulted ceilings but it's only about 900 sq ft.
If you are truly concerned about sound I would not do the HTiB route. What is your budget, and what will the system be primarily used for.
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 11:54 PM   #162
Austiger
Pooh-Bah
 
Austiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 5,973
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Quote:
Great thread. Can I get some advice?

I have an old Sony receiver STR-DE335, and a DVD player I bought a few years ago for about $125 or something, and a 15-yr old Onkyo CD player. Should I scrap everything for a Home Theatre in a box setup, or should I keep what I have and just get some speakers? My TV is average now, but I will be upgrading to a new one eventually. I live in a duplex with vaulted ceilings but it's only about 900 sq ft.
If you are truly concerned about sound I would not do the HTiB route. What is your budget, and what will the system be primarily used for.
Under $1000 without the TV. It will just be for movies/I-tunes for me and a guest or two. I won't be hosting parties or anything.
Austiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2007, 09:38 AM   #163
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

I would reccommend buying a good set of new speakers and running them from the current reciever until you can afford a new one. Mirage Omnisats and the SVS Package are both good if you want more compact speakers. If you don't mind larger speakers for better sound, I like AV123's X-series.

If you listen to music alot, the larger bookshelf speakers will be much better.

You may even be able to afford a package and the Panasonic SA-XR55 or XR57. This reciever is considered one of the best at its price point and unless you are interested in waiting for a $500 Onkyo, Denon, or Harmon Kardon reciever, would probably be your best bet.
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2007, 06:49 PM   #164
Austiger
Pooh-Bah
 
Austiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 5,973
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

jws43yale-
Thanks for your help. I will check those speakers out. Why is the "Home Theatre in a Box" option recommended so much in this thread if it's not good for music? Is it mainly for movies/DVD sound?
Austiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 08:27 PM   #165
jws43yale
veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York, NY (In the boardroom)
Posts: 3,193
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
jws43yale-
Thanks for your help. I will check those speakers out. Why is the "Home Theatre in a Box" option recommended so much in this thread if it's not good for music? Is it mainly for movies/DVD sound?
Yes, HTIB is a simple way to get 5.1 speaker surround sounds, but the speakers are not big enough to accurately produce full frequency ranges. They are fine when you just want the immersive sound experience during movies, but can't output stereo sounds like true good bookshelf speakers can. It is fine for music, but won't be anything special whereas good bookshelf speakers as part of a surround sound system can be better than anything you have heard.
jws43yale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 06:11 PM   #166
guids
banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,996
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

I need a new remote, and was looking at the suggestion that astroglide suggested (logitech harmony 670). I have a few questions that I cant find the answer too:

1. I have my xbox setup as my media center and want to get rid of my xbox remote, will I be able too?

2. I have a logitech z2770 audio system for my computer, will I be able to control that?

3. If not, does it have the feature where I can point my remote at it, and it will learn the buttons and frequencies and let me assign them to buttons on the logitech?
guids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 06:19 PM   #167
gusmahler
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
gusmahler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Creepin'
Posts: 28,923
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
I need a new remote, and was looking at the suggestion that astroglide suggested (logitech harmony 670). I have a few questions that I cant find the answer too:

1. I have my xbox setup as my media center and want to get rid of my xbox remote, will I be able too?

2. I have a logitech z2770 audio system for my computer, will I be able to control that?

3. If not, does it have the feature where I can point my remote at it, and it will learn the buttons and frequencies and let me assign them to buttons on the logitech?
I can't answer those questions for the Logitech remote. But I have a similar remote: the Home Theater Master MX-700.

The answer to all three of your questions is yes for the MX-700. I have an Xbox 360 and I don't even know where the remote is because I've only been using the MX-700. I have no personal knowledge for question #2, but since question 3 is yes, then it will also control the audio system (assuming the audio system has a normal remote control).
gusmahler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 06:40 PM   #168
astroglide
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
astroglide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 14,478
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

guids, it should work with anything that uses IR. most stuff is in their database already, but incase it's not the remotes do have a learning mode.
astroglide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 01:55 PM   #169
TheWorstPlayer
HoldEmKillah
 
TheWorstPlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Working. At a job. Really.
Posts: 21,663
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Time for my monthly bump of this thread. I am finally going to actually be ordering my new setup soon.

Room is 22' x 15', but will be viewing the short way. Will use mainly for movies and sports. Budget is $5K or so.

Currently planning on:

Pioneer 50" Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV Model: PDP-5080HD

Onkyo TX-SR505 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver ( Black )

x-cs 5.1 system from AVS with the upgrade to the Rocket ULW-10 Subwoofer

As for DVD player, astro's rec looks good to me: OPPO DV-981HD

Think this should run me like $3K for the TV, $1.5K for the audio, and the last $500-$1K for the DVD player, remote and TV stand.

Any thoughts on different items, where to purchase, cables, anything else greatly appreciated.
TheWorstPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 02:28 PM   #170
guids
banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,996
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Quote:
Time for my monthly bump of this thread. I am finally going to actually be ordering my new setup soon.

Room is 22' x 15', but will be viewing the short way. Will use mainly for movies and sports. Budget is $5K or so.

Currently planning on:

Pioneer 50" Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV Model: PDP-5080HD

Onkyo TX-SR505 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver ( Black )

x-cs 5.1 system from AVS with the upgrade to the Rocket ULW-10 Subwoofer

As for DVD player, astro's rec looks good to me: OPPO DV-981HD

Think this should run me like $3K for the TV, $1.5K for the audio, and the last $500-$1K for the DVD player, remote and TV stand.

Any thoughts on different items, where to purchase, cables, anything else greatly appreciated.

http://www.everything4electronics.co...w.aspx?ID=2181


Id go with that for your TV, its what I got and I love it, about 1k cheaper, better resolution, etc.
guids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 02:35 PM   #171
TheWorstPlayer
HoldEmKillah
 
TheWorstPlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Working. At a job. Really.
Posts: 21,663
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

I don't think the wife wants a huge TV in the middle of the living room. It's the room you are in right when you walk into our place and she doesn't like that idea... but thanks for the rec and I'll discuss it with her as an option...
TheWorstPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 04:40 PM   #172
Rick Nebiolo
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Rick Nebiolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: East of Eden
Posts: 8,690
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

Onkyo TX-SR505 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver ( Black )

I just got the Onkyo TX-SR605 for $100 more at Circuit City by ordering through the web site and picking up in a local store. This was equal to the best price I could find online and is probably worth the extra $100 according to the AVS forums.

Gotta go otherwise I'd link to some discussions/reviews.

~ Rick
Rick Nebiolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 04:43 PM   #173
TheWorstPlayer
HoldEmKillah
 
TheWorstPlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Working. At a job. Really.
Posts: 21,663
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

sweet. thanks.
TheWorstPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2007, 10:02 PM   #174
Maulik
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 8,176
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

TWP,

Check out www.av123.com email their customer service reps, tell them your budget, etc. Also, bounce ideas on head-fi.org; it's well known for it's audiophiles who get wet for cans.
Maulik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2007, 06:46 PM   #175
highhustla
veteran
 
highhustla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,157
Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today

TWP,

Just wanted to 2nd Rick's opinion. You should definitely spring for the new Onkyo that has the true HDMI v1.3, not just the passthru like the model you listed.

Amazon actually has a pretty good price.
highhustla is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ę 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online