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01-31-2007, 05:27 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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I just toured a new visualization-wall facility last week that is 14'x10', 6400 x 4096 resolution. It's fairly impressive.
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That sounds absolutely insane.
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01-31-2007, 06:00 PM
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#77
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 14,474
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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Doesn't anybody have projectors?
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i only keep up on them peripherally, but if i had a theater-capable spare room i would probably pick up a sony vpl-vw50 (pearl) or jvc dla-rs1 in a flash.
a theater room and dogs are the things i most look forward to in a home. i doubt i will buy one until i have a kid though, my condo suits our needs just fine.
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01-31-2007, 06:32 PM
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#78
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See my PUA listing
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Searching for my Canuck soulmate
Posts: 34,106
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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I'm really surprised that you're talking about burn-in on plasma. Do you disagree with the conventional wisdom that it isn't an issue anymore with newer models.
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i think the effects are dramatically overstated. you're not going to blow up your television by playing a video game, etc. but i have seen enough slightly smoked sets in-person to have lingering concerns about 4:3 black boxes, since i refuse to stretch. the bottom line for me is that a 0.25% or whatever chance of burn-in is too great when i get just as easily get 0.0%. it's the same thing as the dlp rainbows, not many people see them but i can avoid the risk entirely. i will take impossible over extremely unlikely if it's reasonable.
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I suppose it varies from person to person depending on what you like to watch, but very little of the content I watch is 4:3 anymore. Most of my TV usage is for HD sports, Xbox 360 (all games display in HD, and even a decent amount of Xbox games have HD support as well), and mostly mainstream TV shows. The local ABC and CW affiliates doesn't broadcast in HD (bastards) but I can download HD rips of shows like Lost or One Tree Hill and stream them over my Xbox. Pretty much the only thing I watch in standard definition are non-HD sporting events (which are becoming more and more rare), shows like Family Guy that don't exist in widescreen, and cable shows like The Shield.
What do you think about the picture quality of plasmas versus rear-projection TVs (LCD and SXRD)? I bought my KDF-E50A10 (Sony 50" LCD rear-projection) a little over a year ago, and I probably would have gone with a Panasonic 50" plasma instead if not for price ($3500 vs $2200). I'm happy with my purchase, although I do see the screen door effect to a certain degree during some programming, especially hockey games (something to do w/ the white background I guess). However, when I was shopping for sets and doing a lot of comparing in stores, I thought that the plasma displays had a noticeably better PQ than the RP LCDs.
That said, SXRDs were pretty new back then and I still haven't seen one up close; also, being able to get 1080p way cheaper on an SXRD than on a plasma these days is nice, and I've heard they're pretty hot.
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01-31-2007, 08:46 PM
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#79
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Forum Conscience
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Harvard, MA
Posts: 3,345
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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myrtle i'm sure we all welcome any corrections or insight, but you could just post when you've got the time and let the facts speak for themselves instead of citing credentials. your post read to me like a kind of presumptuous "i'll clue you in after i'm done being a professional" announcement. please don't take this as a personal assault, i'm just saying i think it's a bad approach. imagine if somebody went to a strat thread and said, "i'm a pro holdem player, and most of you have it wrong." especially if they didn't claim what or why.
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....y'know what, astro?
It's 8:40pm here and I'm still at work closing out the month, and thought I'd take a quick look at the thread to see if there were any responses to my post of early this morning.
You couldn't be farther from the truth if you think that there's any presumption in me surrounding this subject.....just a whole hell of a lot of experience with thes things for the past 40 years or so.
I'll take your suggestion and change my approach......
Why don't we all forget my prior post, and that I know anything about this subject.
I'm sure that you all can do just fine without any presumptuous knowledge on my part.
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01-31-2007, 09:52 PM
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Forum Conscience
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Harvard, MA
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
I promised a simple, no 'bs' fix for anyone who has a plasma and is concerned about 'burn-in'.
Go to........
http://www.pixelprotector.com/
They're out of the UK and this disc is the best 40 bucks you'll ever spend.
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02-01-2007, 01:37 AM
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 886
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
Hi. I am a giant home theater nut and I thought Id chime in on some of the things I have read in this post and add some other thoughts.
Firstly, burn in, imo is a thing of the past. The newer plasmas all have burn in protection built in. I own an entry level 50 inch vizio plasma and have played video games extensively on it as well as letter boxing SD. I have never experienced burn in only what is known as image retention. These two things are very much different. With image retention a static image may appear on static color backgrounds immediately after playing a video or form leter boxing but 99.9999% of the time it will go away after about 15 mins of watching something else.
Secondly, It is my firm belief that if you really want a true HT experience you need aprox a 4 to 1 ratio from dollars spent on sound and dollars spent on the actual TV or Projector.
Here is my setup.
Speakers - Martin Logan Sequel II electrostatics for the LR
The center is the Martin Logan Cinema I electrostatic center channel.
Sub - SVS PB10. Anyone looking for a sub needs to check out SVS products.
Receiver - Denon 4806.
Dvd player - HDA2 HDDVD player + PS3 for BluRay

(I have since hidden the wires)
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02-02-2007, 01:07 AM
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#82
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Man to man defense
Posts: 8,505
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
Update,
Wow, I got my Slingbox hooked up tonight. That thing is sweet. We just got a new LCD TV in my office, that my wife wants to use to be able to watch the DVR when using the elliptical machine. I hooked up the TV for use as my computer monitor, and watching TV through the Slingbox gives me a far better picture than standard definition through cable. I'm impressed so far.
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02-02-2007, 02:23 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,873
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
astro, do you have any suggestions on a decent setup for a budget-minded college student? Are there any generic/non brand names that sell good tv's or should I stick with trusted names always? (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung etc)..
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02-02-2007, 11:41 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,666
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
question:
I'd like to setup a little surround sound action in my living room, but I'm not sure how it will sound because I always sit in the corner of the room. Can someone give me some advice on how to setup the rear speakers given the layout below?
The tv is the skinny rectangle at the top, the big rectangle is the couch where I basically never sit (but the girlfriend does - she wont care much at all about the sound), and the crooked square is where my comfy chair is - this is where I do all of my tv/movie watching and video game playing.
suggestions?
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02-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Easy Street
Posts: 926
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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I'd like to setup a little surround sound action in my living room, but I'm not sure how it will sound because I always sit in the corner of the room.
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I have a similiar situation, small living room, all the furniture towards that back wall. You can't really get good surround unless you are in the center of the room. The best you can do is put on speaker on each side of the back wall. My receiver allows me to adjust the volume of each output, so I tried to compensate for the fact that I am closer to the right speaker by increasing the volume from the left rear, but it's not all that great. My advice to you, place the rear speakers so they are equi-distant from the center of the room, and when you want to watch a movie move the couch to the center of the room and join your gf on the couch. Profit.
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02-03-2007, 02:43 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 14,474
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
goofyballer,
i think a good plasma looks slightly better than sxrd with a 720p source, but apples to apples i consider it a net loss because of reduced immersion: 50" vs 60" for the same price. sxrd sets are also 1080p, impossible to burn, and don't have the same mounting/distance issues. for my own money that's still an easy decision, but i think plasma vs rp is a lot closer today than it was 2 or so years ago when i bought my lcd. and for some, form factor alone is king.
nolanfan,
glad you like the slingbox. it's worth noting to the others that it works a lot better on a lan than it does over the internet, though.
marwan,
at college i would probably just buy a cheap crt on craigslist. i don't think entry level is worth tapping a bank account, and you can save up. saving rules.
jba,
it sounds like you could use a more comfortable couch!
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02-03-2007, 02:57 PM
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#87
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Man to man defense
Posts: 8,505
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
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nolanfan,
glad you like the slingbox. it's worth noting to the others that it works a lot better on a lan than it does over the internet, though.
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Yep, I noticed this when I tried it at work yesterday. Still was completely watchable, but the full screen quality is certainly not as good. But, the fact I could still watch my DVR during my lunch was pretty cool.
Another benefit for those who have a juvenile sense of humor like I do occasionally - I can change the channel remotely when my wife is watching TV. She needs to watch more ESPN, I think.
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02-03-2007, 11:25 PM
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#88
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 3.0 certified
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
nice post astro...i think i'll be going with the same dvd player and home stereo system...
as far as the tv, i'm going with the pioneer 50" plasma...i've found a nice deal at newegg, but now I'm wondering about warranty...if you or others have any thoughts on that, i'd love to hear it.
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02-04-2007, 07:20 AM
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Most Definitely
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Am I the boxer or the bag?
Posts: 23,985
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
I'm currently in the market for a new TV too (everyone would lol at my current box -- a 27" Sony Trinitron from the late '90s).
I don't have a set budget but I'd like to keep it around $1,000. Maybe 1200 max. Should I spring for a better TV of smaller proportions? Or get a decent-but-not-awesome TV that's bigger? I'm totally clueless here. I don't think I can afford a *good* plasma, as was mentioned, so the Panasonic 42" is probably out of my range.
Is there a good LCD that I can get for 1k that's 40" or so? Or will I have to go down to a 36"?
And what brands are musts to avoid?
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02-04-2007, 10:46 AM
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#90
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Head of the Cardinals bandwagon
Posts: 18,813
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Re: astroglide\'s home theater: what i own, what i would buy today
You can get a Samsung 46" DLP for $1000 from Amazon (plus no taxes and free shipping).
From a brief search of Amazon, you can't get any plasma for $1100. You can get an LCD, but it's only 32".
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