+1 to everything you said.

I just looked it up and mine is over two years old now and still using the original battery.

The hub based system solves the major flaw of the old harmony remotes, which was when one command would get lost due to line of sight. Just having the remote in a the wrong spot could leave your activity command in limbo, with one random device not doing what it was supposed to do, and then you'd have to trouble shoot it.

The hub system doesn't need line of sight with the remote, and since the remote is the only moving variable, it makes everything run much smoother.

Best TV option that meets this criteria?

- 50" or bigger
- Must have really good black levels (are plasmas even really being sold anymore? what happened to OLED?)
- Under $700, pref. under $600

No oled in that price range... your looking at led tech or a used plasma.

In the market to replace my 46-in Sony XBR4 that I purchased what seems like a decade ago. Still looks good just ready for something bigger. Probably going to get something after the holidays.

Any recommendations for a 65-in?

Budget in the $4-5K range is doable.

Was looking at the Samsung SUHD 9500 but have always had a Sony set, not sure on Samsung. They seem to review pretty good.

Thanks for the help.

Sony has a 4k 70 inch on sale thru Amazon for less than 3 grand.

But if it's me,I'd get a vizio smart 70 inch for 1800,never got the Sony hype,but I bought them when they went on sale.

I have the Panasonic P65VT60 65" and it'd imo the best I've ever seen.

when pioneer got out of the TV business they sold the kuro technology to Panasonic and this TV is basically the new kuro.

it's absolutely incredible and in ur price range.

I have it paired with Martin Logan electro stat speakers/sub/center channel with a pioneer elite receiver and sony bdp.

have a roku 3 and apple tv but use the roku exclusively.

Panasonic is the shyte for sure... with all the oled and led 4k crap rolling around these last few years, it wasn't until this year that one or two larger oled monitor's managed to finally take down panasonics mighty 1080p plasma VT60... and it still is easily in the top ten monitors available for purchase because of the dynamic range, superb blacks and increased reproduction of the rec 2020 color range.

There a couple 4k oleds that challenge and pass that panasonic, but they cost maybe 3-4 times as much.

Sorry for grunching.

My sweet Renodoc lakehouse has a built in entertainment center/space that is the limiting factor in my home theater selections.

I currently have the following:

Sharp Aquos 40" (?) LCD circa 2004 This TV has been great. It also has a built in sound-bar at the bottom of the TV. (If I don't use the supplementary sound described below)
(This TV also comes with a "brain" box where all the inputs connect--much like a cable box or what not)

I have a Blu-ray player and an Apple TV box. Both are connected via HDMI. Currently I only have one HDMI input for the TV so I have them on a switch. Meh.

I have Charter cable, and while I used a cable card for years they forced me to get a "cable box" for my TV now. This is currently connected via component lines. I didn't see an HDMI output from the cable box when I looked, but there is S-video, USB, etc.

I have a first generation Yamaha sound-bar which rocks. It consists of 2 smaller (3-4") speakers on the ends of an array of 40 or so 1" speakers. I believe this soundbar is connected via an "optical audio" line, although I could be misremembering this completely. I do know that when I hooked it up- more than a decade ago- this was the first time that I was introduced to this kind of cable.

There is also a decent sub-woofer in the mix.

The room is relatively small, and the sound set-up is perfectly fine for my needs.

I'm posting here because while the TV continues to work, the single HDMI input on the brain-box is broken. I debated repairing it, but given prices of TV's it seems replacing it makes more sense.

The dimensions of the space where the TV sits are 45 x 34.

The house is at lake tahoe, elevation 6200'- not so good for used plasma if that is in the mix.

So, what's the TV I want? Size and inputs seem the most important characteristics.

Thanks!

Bump...

Solid bump

I bought Sanyo, and it rocks. My subwoofer is busticated now so i need a new one

Also, since this thread was started by Astroglide, a quick anecdote

When Rand was starting to consider a POTUS run almost 2 years ago i hosted a fundraiser at Incline Village. One of the participants (DW) sat between myself and the Senator. Turns out this guy was very wealthy. He was invited to a friend's gay wedding years ago and, being in the medical device business, decided he would create this bottle of gooey stuff for his friend as a gift. A couple weeks after the wedding one of the grooms discreetly asks if he can get some more of this lube. Tah dah! Astroglide!

The next day while skiing with Rand i ask if he knew DW and how he made his fortune. Rand says, completely deadpan "what's Astroglide?"

Update: Finally had to change the battery on my logitech hub remote after 3 years and 3 months of daily use.

Definitely an A+ purchase.

Nice...

Upgraded my stereo/home theater system, decided to do 2.1 for now:
Dennon AVR-X4300H
SVS Ultra Towers
SVS SB16 Ultra Sub
Heos 7 for wireless to bedroom

Still rocking the Sony XBR4, looking to upgrade tv sometime this year with probably OLED.

no probably... get the OLED

pricing on monitors is so reasonable these days, until you get into 70"+. 65" oleds are mid $2000 and 70"+ LED's are under $1000

how does the kuro compare to the OLED?

Its behind the modern newest oled, by a fair margin... but it still stands head and shoulders above most of the rest. There is one panasonic Plasma that manages to barely best the Kuro at a decent price point but that was in the last year of plasma production.

Modern better end oleds are more than mere resolution. there is the resolution enhancements over the kuro's 1080p, however the modern oled has much better "dynamic range" and much better "color gamut"... two elements I consider MUCH MORE important than screen resolution.

I have the 65" panny VT60 whatever which was supposedly the top of the Panasonic line a few years back when I bought it.

is that the one ur referring to or is there a newer better model?

also, I'm pretty damn blind, would I even be able to detect the difference between a new high end OLED n my panny?


edit: scrolled up a bit and saw we had almost this exact conversation some time ago lol.

tho my last question about whether my eyes could tell the difference still stands.

vt60 is the model... it's still a beast imho, and I to am hanging on to plasma.

Usually the discussion about whether or not to jump into oled centers around resolution... and that conversation revolves around screen size in combination with how far your main viewing seat is from the screen. There are a lot of folks that suggest its a waste of time getting the higher resolution of oled if your seating is to far away to take advantage of the higher resolution... while there are facts that support this, the main argument from me is perhaps you wont get a huge benefit from greater resolution, but you will get the benefit of greater color depth and you will get a benefit of being able to experience a much wider color pallet... its not even close with plasma unfortunately and even worse with led/lcd.

The biggest reason for me against buying last year or this year is that technology is changing so rapidly... and there is MUCH TALK about 4k being obsolete in another couple years. Makers really seem to want to push past 4k into 6k or even 8k in combination with HFR (high frame rate) well past the current 60fps to over 100fps... many more expensive big budget movies are actually shot at frame rates that approach and exceed 100fps.

The manufacturers are pushing towards better rec2020 standards which, unlike our plasma screens that produce colors of the visible spectrum by blending and fooling the eye into thinking it sees green... a rec 2020 screen will actual prodce the color green.

I think I am going to wait another year or two at the very least to see what shakes out. I am fairly blind also, but I do want a rec2020 screen someday.

I also wanted to say there is also some push from folks that actually want to make your monitors smaller... as in MUCH SMALLER, as in wearable. There are more than a couple movies being shot this year in an immersive format... this includes ridely scotts new Alien movie. Wearing personal goggles and being able to view a movie from any direction a user wants seems like a winning idea to me.

wow that's nuts.

thanks for the info pretty crazy what they're doing these days.

So my TV is old. 2006 Sony SXRD 60" I thought this tech would take off, but it didnt

Now considering waiting 6-12 M for the new Sony OLED sets to come out

Thoughts?

I think you are okay with buying now... 65" oleds are in the 2000-3500 range. Perhaps even a little lower for an off brand.

The new Sony OLED uses the LG panel. They will also sell for a premium to the LG. Some people swear by Sony's motion processing though, so if you can tell or care, it wouldn't hurt to wait.

Last years LG panels can be had at a great deal right now. This year's panel has fixed some issues from last year. The issues are outlined over at AVS but that forum has is the nittiest of nit people doing nothing but looking for the tiniest issues.

I wish I could afford a OLED but im a poor and I cant. Whats the best bang for my buck right now for about up to $800 or so?

An led monitor or a used plasma... deals abound on led.

You see used ~50" Plasma's being sold by people who don't know what they have and are simply upgrading for ~$200 all day on CL, Kijjiji, etc. Definitely the best bet in my mind.

You can pry my plasma from my cold dead hands.