Is this the one a few blocks from my place? I've been meaning to check it out sometime. You don't like it?

Food is ridiculously cheap. I probably eat out at what would be $20+ a plate dinners in the United States for just the entree several times a week. The entrees usually run $4-6. A side of potatoes is $2. A bottle of wine at a restaurant is maybe $7-10. So if I go out with a few friends it is under $10 with tip for what would be a $30-40 meal in the USA.

It should also be noted when we give prices that includes tax (VAT). VAT is 21% here and listed in all prices (like Europe).

If you weren't like me and eat out all the time, I'm positive you could spend just a few bucks a day on food and survive just fine. I finally went to the fuiteria today and bought some apples, bananas, and oranges. I didn't notice the exact prices but it worked out to about 45 cents a pound, so fruit is fairly cheap here as well.

The other thing that is cheap is Argentine labor. So haircuts, massages, maids, etc. Maids are $2/hr, haircut with shampoo was $6, Chairman Wood can give massage prices... I haven't had the pleasure yet. Things made in Argentina are very cheap as well (leather, beef, etc).

I'd say outside from rent, the cost of living is approximately 1/3 of the cost of living in say California.

I actually think you are a bit high on the cab ride prices, but you do live a bit farther from downtown then I do as well. I've yet to have a cab ride go over $4 so far, except the one time my accent was off and the cab driver couldn't figure out where I wanted to go so we drove in circles. Most cab rides are about $3 for me. Usually it takes no more than 10 minutes to get most places I want to go; the city is also very walkable for about 10 blocks in any direction. I've yet to take the subway or bus because I'm a lazy bastard. I really need to start though.

One day I'll take a bus into Boca and watch a football game.


Yeah, the landlord should be able to add it to any listing on BytArgentina. You just have to make sure you make it known well in advance and you should probably be renting the place for a few months. I think 1Mbps internet is somewhere around an extra $40-50/mo.

I'm relinking your images. Inlines are fine I think.


Torres del Paine (Argentina/Chile Border)


Igazu Falls


La Calafate (Glacier Perrito Moreno)


So sad I haven't left BsAs yet!

Metetron -

After spending the day at Barnes & Nobles reading Argentina travel books, I'm leaning heavily towards a BA relocation. Any further experiences you can share regarding setting up an account with Party (and Neteller?) would be enormously appreciated.

Beautiful country. Im curious if you travelled outside of BA by car. I like to take day trips/explore by car, and I am wondering if it is feasible to live in BA and have a car.

whangarei,

There is absolutely no need to have a car within the city of Buenos Aires. It will be far more of a headache than anything and won't help you get around any quicker. People drive crazy here and I wouldn't want the liability.

You can rent a car to go explore the rest of the country, but it is generally very expensive at like $50-100 a day if I remember correctly. For this reason, everyone takes buses or flies to other parts of the countries depending on where it is. The buses are pretty cheap and a good way to get to parts of the country under a 10 hour bus ride away.

Subfallen,

You send in a copy of your passport and lease agreement to them and they change your address. With Party Poker this is a lot bigger pain in the ass than it really should be. 95% of your emails go unanswered and you have to keep calling and emailing until you get lucky. I hate this company.

"Picking up in Argentina is very easy for an American. They differentiate between US people and US policy. You need to have Argentine friends though, and if it's female friends, women will sort of openly flirt. E.g., they'll openly talk to you, but they'll wait till your girlfriend goes to the bathroom before giving you their number (or showing up at your hotel). Guys who head out alone will have a lot more difficulty. There are a class of dolled up girls called "gatos" (cats) who basically shoot guys down all night and then talk about how cute they (the shot-down guys) were. Many women do this on the street with eye-contact games.

Also, if you get caught cheating, your girlfriend wants you more, as do other women. It's [censored] up. Women are insanely jealous and think nothing of going through your pockets after you go to bed after a night out with the guys, looking for evidence of chicanery. I knew a Canadian there who spoke the local accent perfectly, had lots of cash, and only dated ex-pats despite LOTs of options.

Age acceptable difference is freaky. I shot down girls when I found out they were 17 (looked 24). The 35-year-old next to me called me an idiot. Lots of guys get divorced around 40 and shack up with a late-teens, early 20's girl.

They are by and large very racist and unapologetic about it. I've seen people leaving their leftovers for a stray dog and ignoring the native-American, obviously hungry, prostitute on the corner."

Wtf, have you ever even been to BA? I give your review a C-.

For the most part I'd tend to agree with most everything Metetron and Chairman Wood have said thus far in the thread.

I'll chime in some now, as I just got back from a nearly 3 week vacation in Bolivia.

1. Chileans, Bolivians, Peruvians.
2. Ehhhh
3. I like it, and can't quit it.
4. 2Legit2 quit.
5. El Diego.
6. Fazio is a great pickup, looks like a good prospect. I haven't seen him play outside of the U-20s, but he's got good size and quickness, and a good head on his shoulders. I saw on the news that Athletico Madrid just signed some 12 yr old. Damn I feel old.

How much does your apartment(the one you posted pics of) cost?

The stuff you said about not being able to pick up chicks unless you are with a girl and girls liking you better if you are cheating on them... Is this based on your personal experiences or what other people tell you?

"With Party Poker this is a lot bigger pain in the ass than it really should be. 95% of your emails go unanswered and you have to keep calling and emailing until you get lucky. I hate this company."

It might be because I am probably in the top 25 for Party rake contribution in 2006, but this was a pretty painless process for me.

I don't think Metetron was the one that said this, and the statement was almost entirely inaccurate.

I personally live here with my fiance and while I'm 100% faithful, have been approached by a few and heavily flirted with by a good number of Argentine girls while alone, with friends, or whatever. Argentine girls, while generally passive (just due to the aggressiveness of the Argentine guys which rivals the Italians)

Argentine women liking you better if you cheat? Wtf? Just retyping that makes me feel silly.

I will say however that nearly 100% of Argentine guys cheat, and the women are all in a kind of unspoken denial. I have friends who have 2-3 serious girlfriends that don't know about each other. It's pretty much a don't ask don't tell type of thing..

I wasn't, but it took a second to realize you weren't the one saying it. The quoting wasn't very easy to see.

KKF,

The apartment I posted pictures of is grossly overpriced, but was all I could find availability at last minute. I'm moving into a new place for $975 in two weeks or so. Keep in mind I am mostly paying for location here. The same apartment in even Palermo would be $600 or so. Anyways, here are pictures of the apartment I'm moving into:


The Lobby


The Building


Living Room


Bedroom


Bathroom


Kitchen


Balcony


Gym


Rooftop Pool / Asado Area

Keep in mind I definitely could have spent less, but I like it for location, amentities, furnishings, etc. I wouldn't be as happy somewhere else.

what neighborhood is this in?

Recoleta


Edit: I've got this place rented for a long time, don't think you can jack it

LOL.