Most of my friends are young expats, but I do have about 5 or so Argentine friends who I've met.

If I want a 2 bedroom place in a neighborhood where I won't be robbed, and I don't care about much else. What is a reasonable price range (since I am trying to be thrifty) Idealy I would want a place less than 600 usd for 2 bedrooms..?

Your asking for a bit much for a 2 bedroom under $600 a month. The only way I see that happening is if you get in good with a local and get a regular unfurnished lease through them. But something a foreigner can rent, you just won't find something that cheap. The best I've found so far is $750 for some in Palermo Viejo, but they don't include internet.

Just search for places and as long as it's in Recoleta, Barrio Norte, Belgrano, or Palermo you will be fine. San Telmo is probably fine as well, but I wouldn't want to live there. It's probably the cheapest of the five though. I'd say you are more likely going to spend $750-$900 depending on the place you get if you are trying to be thrifty.

OK fine.

1. When Argentines make jokes about dumb people (like Polock jokes in the US), where do the stupid people come from?
2. When Argentinian mothers tell their children to finish their food, from where do the starving people come? (ex. Africa, Ethiopia, India)
3. Do you like the juh sound they make when pronouncing words with y's or ll's? (Say this 5 times fast Yo lloré ya)
4. Same for "vos".
5. (probably the most important) Who is the best football player ever to put on a Sevilla jersey? (hint: it's incredibly easy to get this, if you can't watch, my avatar for a bit)
6. Know anything about this Fazio guy Sevilla just signed? He's a center back on the Argentina under 21 team.

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I'm pretty sure all those places are still much poorer than Argentina so I imagine they still work.

It's actually much more like a "sh" sound in the city of Buenos Aires, in the middle of nowhere parts of the country it is more like a "j". I personally like it a lot. It sounds much better.

Again, I like this. Everything that was irregular in tú is now regular in the vos form (vos querés / tú quieres). Also, the accent shift sounds good. How can you go wrong with "vos sos" instead of "tú eres"?

Football sucks.

Bump requesting moving this to the El Diablo forum. I believe it works better there. I am on the Diablo "you can make threads list" so I hope this isn't a problem. If Diablo wants to nuke it or move it back, it is all good.

I've been on vacation so I'm a little late in getting to this thread. I'll expand on some of Met's posts. No one is really going to hate on you for being a little brown here but there definately exists a strong streotype that the more darker red/brown you are, the more likely you are to be poor. Concerning the ladies, any sort of superficial defency you have in being a little brown can be more then made up with the superficial fact that you probably make at least 5 times as much $ then they do.

I would say that is accurate. I've described parts of this city to others as a "Poor man's Paris." Considering other towns, I don't necessarily know where to start answering your question. What is necessarily South American? Cause, I would say perhaps that Buenos Airesd is more European than South American however, is Lima more South American then Rio? One thing, though within Argentina, there are few cities that are like Buenos Aires. Regionalism is quite high and a theme of a lot of Argentine history is the struggle between other parts of the country with a dominating central power in Buenos Aires. Could be viewed as similar to some of the US's conflicts concerning Federalism/States Rights. So a lot of other towns in Argentina pride themselves on not being like BsAs.

That's not a bad estimate but I would like to say that amount is more then enough. I probably spend slightly more and I eat out a lot at nice places, always take a bottle of wine at a restaurant, have a maid, travel a bit etc. A friend of mine told me with $5000 he could live in BsAs for two years without a job. Now, you know that you are not going to be living alone in a nice area but if you really want to cut corners to live on the cheap it's possible.

For nightlife? Yes you are right as many things are closed but there is almost always some bar open in Plaza Serrano every night of the week. There won't be much dancing but there will always be a few people there grabbing drinks. Although I don't really like it much, The Kilkenney, this bar that fancies itself an Irish Pub, I know is popular and open on Sunday nights.

what is the cost of living like? i've been looking at apartments on bytargentina.com, so i have a general idea of what to expect as far as an apartment goes, but what about food? (i don't want to eat fast food every meal, but i also dont want to eat at the nicest restaurant in town every night) how about transportation costs? is it easy to get everywhere in the city?

also, do they have wi-fi hotspots around the city? if an apartment doesnt have hi-speed internet, would it be hard to get the landlord to add it?

thx

When they pick on other countries, usually Bolivia. That may be because they are viewed here sort of like Mexicans in the US that illegally immigrate there and take [censored] jobs that don't require any education. Within BsAs, I guess anyone from the interior of the country.


Even with all of the other good information you have given in this thread, I would really doubt that you have ever been to Argentina if I hadn't seen you in person. If you have any hope of trying to fit in here you really have to get your Diego knowledge up to par.

Concerning Fazio, I follow football here and I didn't know much about him until the news came of his transfer. This doesn't mean he isn't any good but the team he was on I believe is in the 2nd division. So he doesn't really make Sportcenter.

I have briefly been to Brazil, (few hours) Chile (below and only for a day) and I went to Uruguay to Punta del Este for a few days. So I haven't really been around other countries in South America but I have done some traveling within Argentina. IMO, it's a shame that so many people come to this country and only see Buenos Aires and a few places around here. This country has a wealth of natural parks and beautiful places that must be seen. Here is a sample of some of the places I've been (not even a drop in the bucket though):

Glacier Perrito Moreno:




Torres del Paine (actually in Chile but right near the Argentine Border):

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Iguazu Falls:
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Still cheap, the best value is food, especially beef. You can get some a really nice New York Strip steak (Bife de Chorizo) for $5 in a lot of places. Wine is cheap as well. Obviously in a supermarket things are really cheap too.

Taxi rides start at a little less then $1. You should be able to get anywhere you want to go in the city for less then $6. Subway system is crowded during a lot of the day but is fast just as long as the place you need to go is along the line. They don't have a web like a lot of other cities. All the lines run kind of in the same direction (to downtown) and meet there. So going in a perpendicular direction of the lines is kind of tough. They cost rougly 0.25. Buses are a few cents more expensive and they have a really good network of those that run all day. This is how most people get around the city.


Not yet on the Wi-fi. You should be able to get your landlord to add internet quite easily.