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Old 08-10-2012, 07:27 AM   #1
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What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

1c/2c facing an all in preflop, what pockets would you fold or call based on a villains stats/position?

Guessing AA and KK is a call no matter what the villains stats show?
QQ and JJ ?
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:30 AM   #2
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First you have to determine villians range. Against a nit i probably would fold QQ
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:31 AM   #3
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

This question is missing a lot of information.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:34 AM   #4
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

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This question is missing a lot of information.
I'm sorry. First post mistake no doubt. Wasnt based on a particular spot at all. Real general question, but I guess that isnt the kind of question thats gets a good answer.

Sorry, but please let me know how I can expand. Thanks a lot.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:45 AM   #5
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I'm sorry. First post mistake no doubt. Wasnt based on a particular spot at all. Real general question, but I guess that isnt the kind of question thats gets a good answer.

Sorry, but please let me know how I can expand. Thanks a lot.
Post an actual hand history, that would be good.
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:36 AM   #6
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

Will do next time. Thanks.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:19 PM   #7
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

this all depends on the villain. I have folded QQ and snapped 77.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:25 PM   #8
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

Haven't played 1c/2c since ~6 months before black friday, but I don't think I've ever gotten QQ aipf with 100bb effective and been good.
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

normally something like TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,AK,AQ
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:53 AM   #10
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I'm sorry. First post mistake no doubt. Wasnt based on a particular spot at all. Real general question, but I guess that isnt the kind of question thats gets a good answer.

Sorry, but please let me know how I can expand. Thanks a lot.
Most importantly, stack size and size of pot (pot odds), and action leading to the all in, and any history with villain ( if assuming villain is unknown it's ok to just say known villain)
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:11 AM   #11
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

Noted and noted. Many thanks all.
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Old 08-12-2012, 05:01 AM   #12
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Haven't played 1c/2c since ~6 months before black friday, but I don't think I've ever gotten QQ aipf with 100bb effective and been good.
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First you have to determine villians Range and you have to difference a standard preflop raise and a 3-bet / 4-bet. If villian is 3-betting 3% of his hands i probably fold QQ..
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Re: What premium pockets would you fold/call to an all in preflop?

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Haven't played 1c/2c since ~6 months before black friday, but I don't think I've ever gotten QQ aipf with 100bb effective and been good.
You must be discounting the times you were against aggrofish and forgot the hand because 'lol, of course I'm good here'. But yeah, standard preflop stacking off ranges 100bb deep for 2NL regs are either KK+, QQ+ or QQ+, AK (and the final one loses money ITLR vs other regs, and the second is roughly breakeven IMO).
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:28 PM   #15
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First you have to determine villians Range and you have to difference a standard preflop raise and a 3-bet / 4-bet. If villian is 3-betting 3% of his hands i probably fold QQ..
Really? Presumably we have some overlay from the pot and vs a 3% range:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

59,930,640 games 0.000 secs 11,986,128,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 30598090 945878.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 27440794 945878.00 { QdQh }
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