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How do you handle a 97/40/65? How do you handle a 97/40/65?

01-11-2010 , 12:33 AM
This guy loved shoving every pot, and was actually successful with it, winning every hand, and sucking out when he needed to.

He built his stack to nearly 80 on 25NL, and i eventually took over 60 of it.

But while i was succesful, I felt very spewy doing so. Calling his raises, or other peoples raises, if he as in the pot, and flatting if he was left to act.

This felt so wrong, but i really just wanted to be in a hand with him every time so I could stack him if i hit anyting TPTK or higher.

Is this how you would have handled this or is there a better wat of handling this maniac
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01-11-2010 , 12:46 AM
shove PF with any ace

Last edited by McAvoy; 01-11-2010 at 12:46 AM. Reason: or PP
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01-11-2010 , 01:01 AM
thats begging for variance.. like im probably ahead, but I dont know that hell call, and if he does call with QJ, its like a 60/40 and isnt there a better spot to get all is money?
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01-11-2010 , 01:14 AM
just call really really light...if you dont like variance, get off the table. these guys can be super profitable if your willing to gamble a bit.
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01-11-2010 , 01:18 AM
I heart variance.
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01-11-2010 , 01:20 AM
Call them down as light as possible to be profitable
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01-11-2010 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by conquistador28
thats begging for variance.. like im probably ahead, but I dont know that hell call, and if he does call with QJ, its like a 60/40 and isnt there a better spot to get all is money?
Yes, there are better spots. When they come up shove those also. +EV decisions are +EV decisions.
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01-11-2010 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by conquistador28
Calling his raises, or other peoples raises, if he is in the pot, and flatting if he was left to act.
Letting him be the aggressor is fine. Just ensure you're not calling with air. The way to play against loose players is to play tight and beat him when you hit. I would not advocate shoving every Ace as McAvoy said but limping and flatting after you hit your A will get you paid evertime.

It is frustrating to fold hands and watch other player get paid off by these psyco's. But it is even more unpleasant to be giving your money away at the same time.
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01-11-2010 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OoLethaLoO
just call really really light...if you dont like variance, get off the table. these guys can be super profitable if your willing to gamble a bit.
This!
If you are not willing, another Hero is and gets the money while you wait for QQ+
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01-11-2010 , 01:39 AM
ok, i was calling really light.. i busted him with aj, missing on the flop and he bet light, and than hit an ace on the turn, and got most in on turn, and rest on river, when a secong 5 hit the board. didnt love the call but made it and was pleased

i was just confirming i was doing the right thing.

it felt so wrong, ive been reading you boys way too much

good luck
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01-11-2010 , 01:40 AM
wait for cards to loot the lagtard
massive profits lie in store
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01-11-2010 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OoLethaLoO
just call really really light...if you dont like variance, get off the table. these guys can be super profitable if your willing to gamble a bit.
Exactly. Occasionally, the sumbitch will win a few buyins off you and you'll just be rolling in Sklansky bucks, but it's worth the risk since more often than not, it's like going to an ATM and getting some money out.
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01-11-2010 , 02:15 AM
I had almost the same guy at 2NL with crazy stats like that. He allin-ed every hand for 10 in a row. And he did lose very few allins.

I first took 2$ from him.

Then lost 3$ with KQ vs K8.

Eventually he left with ~4$ of profit.
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01-11-2010 , 02:21 AM
I play a lot of hands when they are at the table, in fact my vpip goes up 20-25 points as long as the rest of the table are not raising preflop. This is helpful b/c they will not give you credit when you hit the nuts and can win big pots.
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01-11-2010 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Seamus McFly
The way to play against loose players is to play tight and beat him when you hit.
This is like...the opposite of true.
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01-11-2010 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
This is like...the opposite of true.
why?

you can play cards which have the possiblity of making top/second pair (no kicker at all) on flop (!!!) - that means mainly big broadways and pairs. playing any kind of speculative hand which doesnt give you a made hand on flop does not make sense, he will bet/overbet into you and you just will spew while drawing.

you can also stop isolation this guy, when he just limps in just limp behind (of course not with pocket aces, kings). this depends the other regs/table dynamics, isoing usually doesnt not make sense (when get pounded with a 5usd bet on flop).

thats the way i play against those maniacs, and i love them; they are the most profitable players for me.
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01-11-2010 , 04:52 AM
It is a race for their money.
I would ship top 20% of hands PF with less than 3 to act and top 10% with all left to act.
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01-11-2010 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
why?

you can play cards which have the possiblity of making top/second pair (no kicker at all) on flop (!!!) - that means mainly big broadways and pairs. playing any kind of speculative hand which doesnt give you a made hand on flop does not make sense, he will bet/overbet into you and you just will spew while drawing.

you can also stop isolation this guy, when he just limps in just limp behind (of course not with pocket aces, kings). this depends the other regs/table dynamics, isoing usually doesnt not make sense (when get pounded with a 5usd bet on flop).

thats the way i play against those maniacs, and i love them; they are the most profitable players for me.
The idea isn't to play speculative hands like 67s. The idea is to play the best hands. But against a player like this, a hand like K8o is very easily the best hand and one you should be getting it in with. That's what people mean when saying to play looser. You don't play K8 against a typical player, but it's fine against a guy who gets it in with every hand.
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01-11-2010 , 04:17 PM
just had a session with a guy playing a 93/35/2. He was at the table for 88 hands. It was epic. To bad I run bad, I was down 3 buyins to him at one point and when he finally busted I had barely made those buyins back. Getting it all in PF against these people 5 or 6 times with the best hand and not making a profit = me being a sad panda...
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01-11-2010 , 05:09 PM
you took his money so you did the right thing
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03-20-2012 , 12:20 PM
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