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Old 01-29-2008, 06:49 AM   #1
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Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

This is my first video.

4 Tabling at PokerStars NL25 for just shy of an hour. The audio isnt the best, but the video isnt too bad. If I make another one, I will change mics. I went for the head set version for comfort and ease, but it isnt as good as my table top mic.

If I ramble too much, cut me some slack. I found it somewhat difficult to hold a conversation and 4 table. 8 tabling and just listening to music is much easier!!!

You can get the video at megaupload

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBGBQZ3T

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Old 01-29-2008, 06:56 AM   #2
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

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Old 01-29-2008, 11:28 AM   #3
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

ty bro, downloading.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:53 PM   #4
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

bump, I haven't seen it, but a video by one of our own should be watched.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:48 PM   #5
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

Alright so Megaupload finally decided to give me a slot to download!

So both stacking spots were fairly standard so not much to add there. Also that floating opportunity was good, but too bad he fired again on the turn, you cant do much else than fold.

I would probably fold some of those KJ/QJ hands in positions before HJ, but if you dont overplay them postflop it's alright to keep the aggression up preflop I guess.

Also I noticed you dont have own stats showing on hud, maybe something to try out for you, I like to have them to help me keep up with how I'm running on each table and how others perceive me, so you dont lose track of it when multitabling.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:53 PM   #6
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

I watched about 3/4's of it last night. I jotted down some comments, that I'll post later.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:32 PM   #7
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

will download to watch on friday......
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:09 PM   #8
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

In your first 44 hand, I really don't think you can ever cold call a 3-bet cold profitably with the normal stacks that we have. There implied odds aren't close to being there. I am guessing that you were counting all the money that you could win from the players and getting your stack odds for that, but that isn't implied odds. Implied odds is the amount you expect to win on average when you make a hand.

I would have probably played that A3s hand at these limits. These limits usually allow you to play those hands profitably. I liked it the second time when you did call, although I probably would have semi-bluffed that pot.

There was an A6o hand that you didn't mention that I think you could have played profitably. It was about half way through, right after you flopped TP2K w/ AsQs UTG. You had a tight-passive player with a 40bb stack open-limp the CO. I think it's a pretty good spot to steal.

As on overall thing, I don't generally raise ATC when folded to in the SB because of being OOP for the whole hand. If I have the player pegged as tight, then sure, but until then I play my cards close to my chest.


Your KTo hand that you hit TP from the big blind I would have checked the flop. If everyone is passive I am ok with betting there though. If you had a pair of A's I would be more in favor of checking. I do think you missed value on the river. I think you can bet and get calls from wose K's and even worse pairs. A small bet would do just fine.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:11 PM   #9
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

random stuff
look for tables with less shortstacks
im folding the 44 on the flop
also raising ats from the sb
that ak is played so superweak, im raisin the flopdonk everytime

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Old 01-31-2008, 03:54 AM   #10
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Alright so Megaupload finally decided to give me a slot to download!

So both stacking spots were fairly standard so not much to add there. Also that floating opportunity was good, but too bad he fired again on the turn, you cant do much else than fold.

I would probably fold some of those KJ/QJ hands in positions before HJ, but if you dont overplay them postflop it's alright to keep the aggression up preflop I guess.

Also I noticed you dont have own stats showing on hud, maybe something to try out for you, I like to have them to help me keep up with how I'm running on each table and how others perceive me, so you dont lose track of it when multitabling.
How do you set up HUD for your own stats. I only get mine by clicking on my player seat.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:02 AM   #11
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In your first 44 hand, I really don't think you can ever cold call a 3-bet cold profitably with the normal stacks that we have. There implied odds aren't close to being there. I am guessing that you were counting all the money that you could win from the players and getting your stack odds for that, but that isn't implied odds. Implied odds is the amount you expect to win on average when you make a hand.

I would have probably played that A3s hand at these limits. These limits usually allow you to play those hands profitably. I liked it the second time when you did call, although I probably would have semi-bluffed that pot.

There was an A6o hand that you didn't mention that I think you could have played profitably. It was about half way through, right after you flopped TP2K w/ AsQs UTG. You had a tight-passive player with a 40bb stack open-limp the CO. I think it's a pretty good spot to steal.

As on overall thing, I don't generally raise ATC when folded to in the SB because of being OOP for the whole hand. If I have the player pegged as tight, then sure, but until then I play my cards close to my chest.


Your KTo hand that you hit TP from the big blind I would have checked the flop. If everyone is passive I am ok with betting there though. If you had a pair of A's I would be more in favor of checking. I do think you missed value on the river. I think you can bet and get calls from wose K's and even worse pairs. A small bet would do just fine.
Thanks for the comments.

I will play suited Aces, but prefer them from HJ onward. Will limp or raise depending on conditions/players.

On the KT hand, value betting the river is something i could do more of.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:10 AM   #12
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random stuff
look for tables with less shortstacks
im folding the 44 on the flop
also raising ats from the sb
that ak is played so superweak, im raisin the flopdonk everytime
normally switch tables when short stackers are on, tougher to do when trying to do a video.

raising ats from sb - what does that mean?

Which AK hand you talking about? where at in the video is it. I looked at the hands on PT and didnt see a hand where anyone donked into me when I had AK
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:17 AM   #13
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

there was one hand where you had ace ten suited in the sb and the button limped or something, i'd raise that everytime-
on the ak hand some guy minbet into you on the flop and you just called and then checked it down, guy had 77.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:08 PM   #14
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars

Thanks for taking the time to make this, I always appreciate when someone is willing to share a video. Downloading & plan to watch it this weekend.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:02 PM   #15
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raising ats from sb - what does that mean?
Raising any two suited from the small blind
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:06 PM   #16
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How do you set up HUD for your own stats. I only get mine by clicking on my player seat.
You select the stat you want to see and then you have to click on "show mine". Up at the top on the left side of the screen.

Seeing your own stats is a dangerous weapon. Don't become too obsessed with your stats such that you don't pay enough attention to the game, but the metagame implications can be amazing.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:45 AM   #17
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Thanks for taking the time to make this, I always appreciate when someone is willing to share a video. Downloading & plan to watch it this weekend.
Thanks. Hope you like it. My way of giving back to the forum that has helped me immensely!

Now that I have figured out the software, I might make another in February if people get something out of this one.
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