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01-29-2008, 05:49 AM
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adept
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Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
This is my first video.
4 Tabling at PokerStars NL25 for just shy of an hour. The audio isnt the best, but the video isnt too bad. If I make another one, I will change mics. I went for the head set version for comfort and ease, but it isnt as good as my table top mic.
If I ramble too much, cut me some slack. I found it somewhat difficult to hold a conversation and 4 table. 8 tabling and just listening to music is much easier!!!
You can get the video at megaupload
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBGBQZ3T
enjoy
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01-29-2008, 05:56 AM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
ty dling
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01-29-2008, 10:28 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
ty bro, downloading.
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01-29-2008, 04:53 PM
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veteran
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
bump, I haven't seen it, but a video by one of our own should be watched.
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01-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
Alright so Megaupload finally decided to give me a slot to download!
So both stacking spots were fairly standard so not much to add there. Also that floating opportunity was good, but too bad he fired again on the turn, you cant do much else than fold.
I would probably fold some of those KJ/QJ hands in positions before HJ, but if you dont overplay them postflop it's alright to keep the aggression up preflop I guess.
Also I noticed you dont have own stats showing on hud, maybe something to try out for you, I like to have them to help me keep up with how I'm running on each table and how others perceive me, so you dont lose track of it when multitabling.
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01-30-2008, 03:53 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
I watched about 3/4's of it last night. I jotted down some comments, that I'll post later.
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01-30-2008, 04:32 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
will download to watch on friday......
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01-30-2008, 05:09 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
In your first 44 hand, I really don't think you can ever cold call a 3-bet cold profitably with the normal stacks that we have. There implied odds aren't close to being there. I am guessing that you were counting all the money that you could win from the players and getting your stack odds for that, but that isn't implied odds. Implied odds is the amount you expect to win on average when you make a hand.
I would have probably played that A3s hand at these limits. These limits usually allow you to play those hands profitably. I liked it the second time when you did call, although I probably would have semi-bluffed that pot.
There was an A6o hand that you didn't mention that I think you could have played profitably. It was about half way through, right after you flopped TP2K w/ AsQs UTG. You had a tight-passive player with a 40bb stack open-limp the CO. I think it's a pretty good spot to steal.
As on overall thing, I don't generally raise ATC when folded to in the SB because of being OOP for the whole hand. If I have the player pegged as tight, then sure, but until then I play my cards close to my chest.
Your KTo hand that you hit TP from the big blind I would have checked the flop. If everyone is passive I am ok with betting there though. If you had a pair of A's I would be more in favor of checking. I do think you missed value on the river. I think you can bet and get calls from wose K's and even worse pairs. A small bet would do just fine.
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01-30-2008, 05:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: No Gods, No Masters
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
random stuff
look for tables with less shortstacks
im folding the 44 on the flop
also raising ats from the sb
that ak is played so superweak, im raisin the flopdonk everytime
Last edited by zyrrth; 01-30-2008 at 05:29 PM.
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01-31-2008, 02:54 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
Alright so Megaupload finally decided to give me a slot to download!
So both stacking spots were fairly standard so not much to add there. Also that floating opportunity was good, but too bad he fired again on the turn, you cant do much else than fold.
I would probably fold some of those KJ/QJ hands in positions before HJ, but if you dont overplay them postflop it's alright to keep the aggression up preflop I guess.
Also I noticed you dont have own stats showing on hud, maybe something to try out for you, I like to have them to help me keep up with how I'm running on each table and how others perceive me, so you dont lose track of it when multitabling.
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How do you set up HUD for your own stats. I only get mine by clicking on my player seat.
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01-31-2008, 03:02 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
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Originally Posted by threads13
In your first 44 hand, I really don't think you can ever cold call a 3-bet cold profitably with the normal stacks that we have. There implied odds aren't close to being there. I am guessing that you were counting all the money that you could win from the players and getting your stack odds for that, but that isn't implied odds. Implied odds is the amount you expect to win on average when you make a hand.
I would have probably played that A3s hand at these limits. These limits usually allow you to play those hands profitably. I liked it the second time when you did call, although I probably would have semi-bluffed that pot.
There was an A6o hand that you didn't mention that I think you could have played profitably. It was about half way through, right after you flopped TP2K w/ AsQs UTG. You had a tight-passive player with a 40bb stack open-limp the CO. I think it's a pretty good spot to steal.
As on overall thing, I don't generally raise ATC when folded to in the SB because of being OOP for the whole hand. If I have the player pegged as tight, then sure, but until then I play my cards close to my chest.
Your KTo hand that you hit TP from the big blind I would have checked the flop. If everyone is passive I am ok with betting there though. If you had a pair of A's I would be more in favor of checking. I do think you missed value on the river. I think you can bet and get calls from wose K's and even worse pairs. A small bet would do just fine.
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Thanks for the comments.
I will play suited Aces, but prefer them from HJ onward. Will limp or raise depending on conditions/players.
On the KT hand, value betting the river is something i could do more of.
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01-31-2008, 03:10 AM
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adept
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
random stuff
look for tables with less shortstacks
im folding the 44 on the flop
also raising ats from the sb
that ak is played so superweak, im raisin the flopdonk everytime
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normally switch tables when short stackers are on, tougher to do when trying to do a video.
raising ats from sb - what does that mean?
Which AK hand you talking about? where at in the video is it. I looked at the hands on PT and didnt see a hand where anyone donked into me when I had AK
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01-31-2008, 03:17 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
there was one hand where you had ace ten suited in the sb and the button limped or something, i'd raise that everytime-
on the ak hand some guy minbet into you on the flop and you just called and then checked it down, guy had 77.
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01-31-2008, 11:08 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Staking - More Gambol, Less Grind
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
Thanks for taking the time to make this, I always appreciate when someone is willing to share a video. Downloading & plan to watch it this weekend.
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01-31-2008, 12:02 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Seattle
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Re: Video: 4 Tabling NL25 on Stars
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raising ats from sb - what does that mean?
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Raising any two suited from the small blind
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