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Old 01-03-2008, 10:58 AM   #1
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Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Basically, I should have done this sooner for you guys, sorry it took so long. Video file is like 250mb but its 1hour long w/ audio.

I'll try and get 1 or 2 more up in the next couple days and then 1 a week for the west of the month after that.

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Old 01-03-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Thanks Ryan dling. See if you can make a 25 or 50NL for us next time! thx
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:30 PM   #3
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

ahh thank you sir ! i loved your NL50/100 Thread very much (and helped me alot actualy )

as i want to move up to NL100 soon - very good that you made a video

*leach it now*
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:42 PM   #4
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

like the starting music...
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:51 PM   #5
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

I'm technically challenged... is there a codec or something I need to d'load to see the video? Listening is not quite as helpful. :-)
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:18 PM   #6
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

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Thanks Ryan dling.

darling ?!

Thanks for taking the time to do this Ryan ! I'll watch it this evening.
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:21 PM   #7
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Downloading lol!

I also enjoyed..."were going to hope to gutterball the **** out of him"
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #8
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

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I'm technically challenged... is there a codec or something I need to d'load to see the video? Listening is not quite as helpful. :-)
This helped me be able to view it.

http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:02 PM   #9
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

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This helped me be able to view it.

http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp
That worked! Thanks much uncleshady, and of course RyanCMU for making the video.
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:22 PM   #10
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Ryan, I have an idea which PT # is which, but some people might not. Great video so far one of the best I have seen, but I would go over which # is which next time so the viewers can look at the stats and think about what they would do vs. certain villans.
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:35 PM   #11
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Downloading now.
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:01 PM   #12
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

sorry ryan just saw you went over hud at the end
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:18 PM   #13
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Just got back from being out all day... Is the video working for everyone? Any requests for next time? complaints? hands you want to discuss?
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:18 PM   #14
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Thnx for making this video, dling now. Will comment later.
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Old 01-03-2008, 04:38 PM   #15
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Thanks for doing this Ryan. Looking very much forward to it.

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Old 01-03-2008, 05:14 PM   #16
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Thanks for posting the Video Ryan.

Do you want to discuss your KK hand with the Ace flop hand, checking behind on the flop.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:06 PM   #17
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Great vid Ryan, thanks a lot for this one. Looking forward for further ones.

Picture quality is great, so is audio. Four tables is ideal for FR.


Time index 26:15

You say that you will open AQo from UTG at these stakes. I play at Party right now (i.e. 10 handed tables) do you think that would make a difference or would you also open it UTG 10 handed?

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Old 01-03-2008, 06:08 PM   #18
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Your 3betting range was quite an eye opener

Do you think I should be doing this at 25NL/50NL?


Feedback for future videos;- When you are making a decision, it would be great if you could mention the players PAHud stats and the thought process from this information. (hope that makes sense)


Good video, looking forward to more.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:24 PM   #19
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Great video, Ryan! Thanks for doing this. I think you explained your thoughts pretty well and the video and audio quality was fine. Fwiw I think 4 tables is the optimal number for a video, so you should stick with that imo.

As for the individual hands, in the hand where you flopped a set with 55 from one of the blinds against an EP limp/caller and an LP PFR, what made you decide to b3b there instead of c/r? I'm not doubting your decision, but I have trouble deciding between those two lines often and would like to hear your thought process for why you chose b3b. If the EP player was the PFR and the LP player was a coldcaller, would you then be more apt to c/r because of your good relative position, or would you still b3b?

As for the KK hand where you flopped an ace, I think checking behind there is pretty standard and I do it most of the time as well. However, I think the drawy nature of the board makes me more likely to bet it, not less. This is because draws are hands that will call you on the flop that you are ahead of and thus are getting value from, whereas on a dry board the only thing that will call you much of the time is Ax, which you're obviously behind.

Edit: Also I want to say that your explanation of the AK hand on the A22 board vs the 60 BB nit was great and gave me a small epiphany. Normally in that spot the looser the player is, the more likely I am to go for 3 streets of value because I figure they'll be more likely to call 3 streets with Ax. However, your reasoning that looser players will have more PPs and other hands in their range that can call the river but probably fold the turn, whereas nits almost always have Ax and have little reason to fold turn/river after calling flop really opened up my eyes a bit. I'll be on the lookout for spots like this in my own games in the future.

I didn't like all the boards you said were bad spots to c-bet, yet you c-bet them anyway. I think most of the time you realized immediately after you made the bet that you shouldn't have, though.

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Old 01-03-2008, 06:26 PM   #20
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Great video man, really opened my to many tactics that i didn't know existed.

btw, i'm glad i'm not the only one who gets pissed when someone backdoors a flush on me, lol
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:36 PM   #21
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

sick ryan, im looking forward to watching it tonight
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:31 PM   #22
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

can you put up you PA HUD layout please?

Also, I would really like to see a 8 - 10 table video. I've never seen anyone play more than 6 tables on a FR video.

Thanks
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:16 PM   #23
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

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can you put up you PA HUD layout please?

Also, I would really like to see a 8 - 10 table video. I've never seen anyone play more than 6 tables on a FR video.

Thanks
I disagree, this has been done before and they are very hard to follow and there is less time for the person doing it to explain their thought process. Like the others, I think 4 tables is just right.


Ryan,

Thanks again for posting this. This was a really good video. A few questions:


1)I can fully understand your reasoning when you say you have to punish the limpers in ep when in position, but I'm not sure you can get away with it so much at $25NL-$50NL My experience is that once these players have limped, they have already decided they want to see a flop and will call any raise and then donk bet into the flop or call a cbet with any old trash, forcing hero to fold. Do this a few times and it can get expensive. What do you think ?

2)In one hand there is a raise from a TAG in UTG and then a cold call from anothert TAG just before you. You 3-bet this quite strongly with 77. Do you think you are ahead of UTG's range here are you just making a play ? I'd be interested in how you chose this spot.

3)Earlyish in the video (22:00)you raise OTB with J9o and get minraised from the blinds. You call obv with great odds and flop an OESD with 2 clubs. Villain bets out weakly and you call. So far so good. A 3rd club comes on the turn and villain makes another weak bet giving you great odds to call again. You hit your straight on the river and villain bets $12. You raise ? Surely you are only getting called by a better hand here ? The board is paired and the flush is a possibility. I think villain had an overpair, but if he's calling I think you're beat.


Anyway thanks again for doing this, it was a real eye-opener. Things I'd love to see in a future video (maybe $25 or $50NL ?):

-Reading the texture of a flop and knowing when and when not to c-bet after a preflop raise.
-Knowing when to double barrel the turn.
-Maybe a bit about choosing your "targets" for isolating against preflop based on their stats/play etc and a bit more info about what cards to be doing this with.

Thanks again
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:34 PM   #24
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:04 PM   #25
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Re: Video: 4 tables, NL/PL100 for uNL

Ok, Ill start adressing some stuff... Give me a few minutes and I'll go through and answer all the posts...

I won't be making any NL25 or NL50 videos, all my videos will be at NL/PL 100. But, the stuff I will talk about and everything should be geared towards helping you guys improve your games in general and ideally make it an easier transistion when moving from uNL to SSNL. I understand a lot of the game dynamics are a little bit different and everything isn't exactly applicable towards NL25 and NL50. However, I think its more important to focus on the overall gameplay and improving your games, not nessecarily, just learning how to beat games you currently play in.

When I post my next video, Ill put up a link to download the HUD layout I created.

Ok now Ill quote the posts and answer the questions...
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