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03-20-2017 , 09:38 AM

Rikk

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I'm certain here that I've missed value by being too aggressive and playing my hand face-up. At the time I convinced myself that QJs, KQ, snap call and a good chunk of NFDs will call enough to make it that I didn't miss too much value; but in honesty I think I had sensed V was on a FD and was worried that it would hit.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37683589

BTN: $3.47 (173.5 bb)
SB: $2.14 (107 bb)
BB: $3.08 (154 bb)
UTG: $3.99 (199.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $4.21 (210.5 bb)
CO: $4.06 (203 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

UTG raises to $0.05, Hero raises to $0.18, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.39) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.22, UTG raises to $0.58, Hero raises to $4.03 and is all-in, UTG folds

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03-20-2017 , 10:52 AM

Renekton

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If you're worried about the flush draw hitting you can raise to $2.30 on the flop so you get the right price to call a shove even if he turns a flush. I don't think he'll call a raise that high though. He might call a raise of $1.90. I'm not sure how to play a heart card on the turn if you take that route. He will still have KQ,QJ you can get value from so I don't know if it would be better to bet or check back turn.

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03-20-2017 , 11:05 AM

Bladesman87

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I think any way you continue looks fairly strong. Main concern is that I think it looks so fos for him to raise flop here when we hold a Q that you might as well flat and hope for another stab from him. You're stacking him if he has the case Q whatever you do.

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03-20-2017 , 12:09 PM

ALongmuir

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Flat call to his raise OTF as you are in position.

UTG isn't going to have many flush draws (About 5.4% of the time if he's calling with AJs+ PF), and you will scare all his pocket pairs, bluffs and worse Kx away with the 3B, rarely are you going to get called by worse.

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03-20-2017 , 02:30 PM

ToiletBowler

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Would rather 3bet flop with the virtual nuts than let his bluffs see the turn for free. We can also add bluffs in by 3betting. It's not like we won't have other Qx to protect.

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03-20-2017 , 04:00 PM

Flpmethntsdlr

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Flat or make it ~$2.00 if you want him to put more in the middle with random things.

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03-20-2017 , 04:43 PM

ALongmuir

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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

Would rather 3bet flop with the virtual nuts than let his bluffs see the turn for free. We can also add bluffs in by 3betting. It's not like we won't have other Qx to protect.

Are we afraid of many bluffs? Any weird bluff is going to have to get a is drawing very thin (PP & backdoors) meanwhile hearts is going to be very obvious and we still have equity and IO when we boat up.

I just think when we are 3B nearly any flop we are going to only get called by near-nutted hands.

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03-20-2017 , 04:48 PM

Rikk

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I agree I think flatting is definitely best (and would be my usual play to let him stab again with hearts) but say i did flat and villain checks turn...any advice on sizing? If he bets I assume i just jam any non

? What about on H turns, fold to any bet seems too nitty but what else is he raising flop with?

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03-20-2017 , 05:02 PM

Flpmethntsdlr

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I would jam if he bets, 3/4 psb if he checks. He can raise here with 77-JJ trying to fold out AK (from his perspective). He could also be bluffing with As3s trying to get you to fold your air and just take down the pot.

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03-20-2017 , 05:11 PM

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ToiletBowler

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Originally Posted by ALongmuir

Why give something for free when we don't have to?

We have the nuts unless he flats 22 pre (in which case we will win a ton of money by just playing solid anyway) so we have no problem GII vs "near nutted hands".

Feel free to bluff 3bet here a lot if you think we have too much fold equity.

We are 200 bigs deep ...not going for value is a mistake. 3bet is too big though IMO

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03-21-2017 , 06:39 AM

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Bladesman87

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Why give something for free when we don't have to?

It's not free. He's put a raise in while behind. And the answer is so that he keeps bluffing and sometimes gets forced to bet/call turn with a draw. I still say people are fos so often here when we hold a Q.

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03-21-2017 , 09:51 AM

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El_Russo1

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Click it back so he knows you think he's fos

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