Do you bet this turn? I did have a bit of experience with this player during this brief session, although the sample size for stats is very small. Shortly after I sat down he called my raise with Q5s and beat me flush over flush.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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UTG+2: $2.55 (127.5 bb)
MP1: $2.18 (109 bb)
Hero (MP2): $0.86 (43 bb)
MP3: $3.96 (198 bb)
CO: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
BTN: $1.70 (85 bb)
SB: $2.87 (143.5 bb)
BB: $2.38 (119 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A Q
UTG+2 raises to $0.04, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 3 folds, SB calls $0.11, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.38) 5 8 Q (3 players)
Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($0.94) 6 (2 players)
Hero??

Just bet, nobody folds top pair here and if he is calling wide pre then he is calling wide postflop. Yes he has a lot of flushes but you still beat a lot of Qx and even mid pairs or draws if he is a fish and check folding is only good if you know how he plays postflop.

With only half a pot bet left in your stack, I think you just have to ship it (or even C/C, but I can't see a fold). It's a tougher spot if we start the hand 100bb effective.

Get it in. If villain called pot sized bet for flush draw and got there with little implied odds then so be it.

I wouldn't think too much about having Q clubs here...it shouldn't change your decision too much. You're too short stacked to think about back door equity.

The way the hand plays I think you get a bunch of value from 99-JJ and Qx hands. If villains stats are in 30s then sadly this is made up of suited random cards a lot of the time but still...one pair type hands 5x, 8x make up for this. Villain may even call a jam with 77.

What range do you put villain on after he flatted my 3b in the SB and then called my CB?

I'm way behind sets, and the turn card completes both a flush and straight (though I doubt he's calling pre with 97 or 74). I'm also behind a slowplayed AA/KK. The only hands I beat now are KQ/QJ or hands like A8/A5 with the Ac (which has outs to the nut flush).

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What are villains stats? I'm assuming 30/8 kind of range. Is their fold to cbet around 67%?

I don't recall but the sample was only 25 hands or something. So very limited info other than the hand we played earlier.

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I seriously doubt villain is slowplaying AA or KK as 3rd person in out of position.

Villain could have a set, but if they do, your club draw is live.

Most likely hands for villain would be a pocket pair below queens (which folds or calls, either of which is fine to you) or another Q (should be AQ or KQ, but this guy has shown a weird range and it is low stakes so anything possible). The only issue with those are if a K or A is a club.

If you think villain will call with those worse hands, get it in. If you think he'll fold to the second bullet, check and try to get him to bluff it when behind. Either way, with half your short stack committed you are not going anywhere. When you start with 43 BB, you are not getting away from traps

A few quick rough calculations using Flopzilla.

Lets assume villain calls flop with pairs below top pair (i.e 99) or better, K high flush draws or better and calls a turn jam with such pairs (99) and flushes.

For a few ranges:
1) AA-88,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo,QJo,AKs-A5s,KQs-K8s,QJs-Q9s,JTs
They call flop bet 53.7%, turn bet 90.4% and we have 62.3% equity against the range they call with

2) AA-88,AKo-AQo,KQo,AKs-ATs,KQs-KJs
They call flop bet 70.1%, turn bet 100% and we have 60% equity against the range they call with

3) AA-JJ,AKo-AQo,AKs-AJs,KQs
They call flop bet 66.7%, turn bet 100% and we have 48.6% equity against the range they call with

I can play about with assumptions but the jam is only bad if villain is playing tight versus 3 bet which I'm doubting.

Interesting, thanks.

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This is an easy shove spot OP.

Your 3bet PF is only 6bb so the villain range can be huge here. Villain has a bevy of hands from AQ, KQ, JQ, TQ (with and without clubs). Even when you're behind, you have the flush draw against many pairs and against all sets / 2 pairs.

Additionally, since you are playing with 40bb:

1. The villain should be playing a little bit looser and generally will widen his calling range post flop (Q8+).
2. You can't invest half your stack and not value bet top pair top kicker with a good flush draw. That would be extremely -ev

To be honest I didn't even realize I was playing short - I was obviously a bit distracted.

Suppose you decide to check. Turn is the 9c and villain puts you all in. What then?

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You still gotta call given the situation. The way the pot is shaped, you'd be calling around 20BB to win ~80BB, so you only need to have about 25% equity.

In reality, you should be looking to jam any turn card here, even if the turn is an off suit king. If you know the villain is aggressive, then check calling off your stack may be the better move because there will be a lot more (semi)bluffs in the villain's range which include worse flush draws. Regardless of your initial turn action, you should never fold in this spot. Your hand is simply too strong.

I figured I played it poorly, good to confirm.

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