Thought about both villain's ranges in that river, most of them are draws and I'm valuebetting only TT, 99 and 8x, which I don't think call the river a lot.

Is it better to check here or valuebet? Was thinking of valuebetting 50% there.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 119.08 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)
SB: 89.76 BB (VPIP: 40.38, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 105)
BB: 194.8 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.30, PFR: 21.45, 3Bet Preflop: 11.30, Hands: 596)
Hero (MP): 129.36 BB
CO: 96.72 BB (VPIP: 10.83, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 1.69, Hands: 121)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.92 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (6.96 BB, 3 players) 8 6 7
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4.88 BB, SB calls 4.88 BB, BB calls 4.88 BB

Turn: (21.6 BB, 3 players) 3
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 15.24 BB, SB calls 15.24 BB, BB calls 15.24 BB

River: (67.32 BB, 3 players) 7
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Why do we bet turn? Isn't it better to check behind? In a 3way pot I check behind turn and river. See no value bet here.

for value ofc

I'm too scared of a slowplay to bet on this turn for value.

There are a ton of pair plus draw hands that we beat that call a turn bet. I think I would size it slightly smaller like 35%-40% of pot.. If we are beat it costs us less $, we still charge villain to draw, and then if it checks to us on the river the pot isn't big enough for us to go mental..

Although if you check back turn villain is likely to pot river with any hand that beats us so we could actually go to showdown and lose roughly the same amount as if we bet the turn.. ah IDK, i'm fairly certain snowie would say bet turn like 35% or something, athough as it's not HU i'm not so sure..

think this scenario vs two villains with a wide range from the blinds no only this time but a lot of times, betting this turn is EV- with that board imo, a lot of times is gonna be Sets (flop was dry so sometimes they will consider slowplay 88-77), another times gonna be draws or two pairs, is not likely you are winning against both.

depend on the villains range i'd consider checking back the flop, and bet some turns, if is the tight passive i would consider betting the check even a second barrel, checking river is fine.

but hey it's 6max and i don't get a lot of things of that field still.

I think it's better to b/f the turn as opposed to checking and giving a free card to a draw.