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02-27-2015 , 01:11 PM
Should I b/f the turn here?

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BTN: $17.41 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 10
SB: $22.94 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
BB: $46.12 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 6.0, Hands: 286
UTG: $11.47 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 1.3, Hands: 145
UTG+1: $16.78 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 1.0, Hands: 89
Hero (UTG+2): $26.73 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.5, Hands: 134426
MP1: $14.04 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 19
MP2: $41.18 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 1034

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+2 with K A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.60) T T Q (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.30, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($5.20) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero raises to $9.08, CO calls $6.58

River: ($23.36) A (2 players)
Hero bets $15.60, CO calls $13.87 all in
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03-01-2015 , 09:36 AM
I don't like the x/r on the turn. What value hands do we expect him to believe we check twice on that board, 88? Are turning our hand into a bluff on the river? he just called our x/r on the turn and we block the Ah, there's absolutely nothing that he can can call with that we beat and I don't think there's really much he's going to fold.

x/c, x/c, x/fold seems fine to me vs a reg.
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03-01-2015 , 04:04 PM
Bet bet xf

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03-02-2015 , 12:03 AM
would c-bet this flop, or c/f. You have 2 overs and a gutshot, which leaves you marginal vs anything he is calling the flop with. don't see this as a big value situation, and see you are way behind if all the stacks go in.

bad board for a bluff raise ott.
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03-02-2015 , 03:44 PM
I would CB this flop. You have some equity and you block some SD/FD's so it makes it harder for V to have connected. Then you turn a good bluffing card, although in this situation I would just hope to get a free card to hit my hand. Don't like the x/r on the turn. I've seen people x/c flop, x/r turn with monsters, but its a hard sell IMO. The river bet makes no sense. This can't be for value and I don't see V folding after calling the turn raise.

Given the stack sizes I would have just jammed turn if you wanted to semi bluff. It didn't seem like you planned this hand out very well.
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03-02-2015 , 04:32 PM
You're repping 3 combos of 88 ott. Villain would expect you to CB any hand that made a straight or flush ott. Riv is... weird. What's the point of that bet? Are you now trying to rep AA? Or hoping for a hero call from KQ?

As mentioned before, guttie+overs+backdoor nfd are good reasons to Cbet.
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03-02-2015 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Candybert
guttie+overs+backdoor nfd are good reasons to Cbet.
Oh yea, esp. on that paired flop in a single-raised 3-way hand. The pure nuts.
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03-02-2015 , 10:18 PM
Nevermind, I thought we were HU. BTN looks fishy, which changes things considerably... I think we don't have enough FE to Cbet this against a fish, let alone if there's another player involved.
If CO is playing exploitively, there could even be a case made for x/folding flop, since the fishy looking player should tilt his range heavily towards value. X/c is probably fine too, just don't x/r turn.

If we were HU with CO, I'd still Cbet. There are a ton of good bluff turns, and turns that improve our hand. Also, we fold out enough hands, we're currently behind against. (Hypothetically speaking.)
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