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Old 08-19-2012, 10:46 PM   #1
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Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

Villain is 20/15/3.4 over 135 hands.



    Cake Poker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: $2.60 (65 bb)
    Hero (UTG+1): $5.95 (148.8 bb)
    UTG+2: $1.90 (47.5 bb)
    MP1: $4.07 (101.8 bb)
    MP2: $3.77 (94.3 bb)
    MP3: $15.33 (383.3 bb)
    CO: $3.43 (85.8 bb)
    BTN: $4.17 (104.3 bb)
    SB: $6.28 (157 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
    Hero raises to $0.16, 6 folds, SB calls $0.14, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.36) T 3 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18

    Turn: ($0.72) 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

    River: ($1.68) Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero...

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    Old 08-19-2012, 11:16 PM   #2
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    I would just check behind. Can't see you getting called by worse.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 04:34 AM   #3
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    i would only call flop if villain has a tendency to super aggro and barrel a lot or if he bets flop, gives up on turn a lot. I think peeling flop is fine but you should fold turn, your just burning 12bb calling there. Raising flop also isnt terrible either imo, villain flatted OOP and donked out, generally i dont expect them to be strong, plus it makes it easier to get to SD.

    if villain never goes to SD and you think he can fold Tx then i would bet but as played just check behind.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 05:06 AM   #4
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    looks fine if hes bad
    if hes a reg type tag turn is abortion
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    Old 08-20-2012, 05:09 AM   #5
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    Looks fine if you checked back the river.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 05:19 AM   #6
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    Yeah, at 4NL I don't really like calling the turn vs someone whose barrelling tendencies are effectively unknown. What's his donk flop %?
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    Old 08-20-2012, 07:06 AM   #7
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    I fold turn unless V is a drooler
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    Old 08-20-2012, 08:21 AM   #8
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

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    I fold turn unless V is a drooler
    What hands are doing this on OTF & OTT? I would think that a set will make it bigger OTT or check in hopes of raising. A set won't want to fold out AK ui.
    TP could easily be doing this, which at the time made the most sense OTR when he checked a broadway card.
    The only realistc draw was 45, but if villain is calling a raise with 45 from the sb, I think it would be 45s which is only 4 combos and kind of suspect IMHO. I think the most likely range of hands that do this are 910s-A10s, or pocket pairs, that didn't hit a set, 44-JJ. If this is correct his range is weighted towards TP hands, so I can see why there are the responses of folding the turn. I think calling the turn is close and I had some trouble with that at gamespeed.

    EDIT: Once I called the turn, my plan was to fold UI to a river bet

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    Old 08-20-2012, 08:38 AM   #9
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    I normally just call the flop and fold the turn in situations like this. When they bet the turn I just put them on a set or at the very least a ten, and safely fold.

    It makes my decision easier since I don't want to be debating that they could be donking a draw, and even if they are donking a draw, are they doing this enough?
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    Old 08-20-2012, 08:52 AM   #10
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    fine as played as long as you checked the river back, i assume he has a weak T or 77's or 88's or something, if you bet this river he'll fold all that you beat and call with all that beats you, so no value in a river bet.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 09:26 AM   #11
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

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    It makes my decision easier since I don't want to be debating that they could be donking a draw, and even if they are donking a draw, are they doing this enough?
    I guess that's what notes are for, as well as flop agg%. This line is jsut very strange. Why would a set want AK UI on a 10 hi flop to fold? There's no draws out there that HERO could reasonbly have and unless villain thinks on level 0, he must know I am going to c-bet most all flops. This line just doesn't make sense to me, but then again, I am currently a reg fish.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 03:10 PM   #12
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    Re: Pocket 9s on a 10 hi donked flop

    check behind river..
    vs reg i think you have to fold turn...
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